Yesterday in Dingwall The People celebrated like they had managed another draw at Celtic Park.
Of course, it wouldn’t be Quintessentially British unless Fenian blood was involved.
Some SNP types were quick to score a political point over their many opponents.
However, the recent legislative action at Holyrood regarding the possible repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012 is irrelevant.
The ethnic cleansing choir at Dingwall were clearly in contravention of the section 74 Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 2003.
They could also be charged under the Section 38 of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010.
Therefore, those on the SNP side of the aisle claiming that the possible repeal of the OBFTC Act was responsible for the shameful singing in Dingwall utterly missed the point.
There is adequate legislation on the statute books to deal with the genocide roadshow from Ibrox.
Ultimately it comes down to the decision of the Police commander on the ground.
Of course, an important check and balance in any democratic society is a free press.
However, it doesn’t work if the Fourth Estate decides that serving the public interest is too difficult for them.
Consequently, if a song about a member of the Ku Klux Klan who led a fascist militia in the 1930s is merely considered “naughty” then there is a systemic failure.
There is no dispute regarding who Billy Fullerton was or what his eponymous street gang did in the inter-war years in Glasgow.
He was a fascist and a racist.
For him, it was the Irish community in Glasgow who were the people of colour.
For Fullerton’s thugs, “Fenian” was their “N” word.
I doubt there was any other football crowd in Britain last weekend who were singing about a member of the British Union of Fascists.
That in itself should be a major story in Scotland.
However, the hearing impaired Stenography Corps know the rules.
They either didn’t hear the klan belting out the Billy Boys (convenient) or the lyrics are dismissed as “naughty” (shameful).
There are some very fine journalists working in Scotland.
However, I cannot say that about many of the current chaps at the sports desks.
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a small bit of text beside a photo of a pitch invasion read
Gers fans help Cummings celebrate his goal
need we say more
Cassandra’s Cat you are totally correct Police Scotland will never act against the so-called “Establishment Club” because their Masonic oath dictates otherwise. This same organisation are keeping this basket case of assets in business despite not having a penny to their name, up to their eyes in debt that’s growing every day and blatantly breaching UEFA FFP regulations! Not to mention the other UEFA regulations about racist chanting &pitch invasions! Even if we got rid of Regan -another puppet of the same persuasion would replace him. Look back over the list of SFA supremos – tell me when you find a neutral “fair-minded” individual who acted for the good of ALL teams-equally!
Incidentally, not being facetious here but…why is it that when singing Flower of Scotland it is fine to revel in the crushing of the English invaders and send them packing yet if you sing about the Irish doing the same it is “offensive” and about terrorism?
I think our songbook has reared it’s head in the last few away games as well. I thought we had moved beyond that?
Heading back to the dark days of not being able to bring my son to away games. CP it is so..
p.s keep up the amazing work. Donation made.
Contrary to popular belief, Billy Fullerton was not a member of the KKK, nor was he the leader of a fascist gang. According to Neil Cameron, he was merely ‘a very naughty boy ‘….
So master murts says that triggers broom FC are under no pressure to sell dud Morelos! !
Really Phil?
Morelos Fantasy Bid
The last time Rangers added so much value to a player so quickly it was Jean-Alain Boumsong. And we all know where that led:
1 Lord Stevens corruption enquiry,
2 City of London Police raid on Ibrox for evidence
3 DOS & EBT side letters found that Rangers always denied
4 HMRC have they proof they need to pursue tax evasion.
5 Rangers into administration and liquidation
6 Sevco created with SFA, SPFL, SPL, SFL collusion
7 LNS whitewah
8 Supreme Court judges Rangers use of EBTs was Tax Evasiomn
The SMSM should be careful what they wish for – or have they forgotten already 😉
The Daily Rectum back page is a world class case of foot-stamping tantrum. Not wanting to admit Celtic have done far better busienss than the Loan Rangers,, they demote Musonda to a poor second, then put a third rate headline about a differnet player.
Boss, how are we going to fill the sickening void we’ve created on the back page.
No problem, Rangers have a much bigger deal.
Who for?
Erm, selling Morelos!
How much for?
Erm six million quid, dollars, euros, yuans – whatever – with add-ons
Who’s buying him?
FFS – someone – someone Chionese – some secret Chioese billionaire – or club – use your feckin brain
Ok – consider it done boss
And Rangers have turned them down cos we’re so fecking world class and WATP
Ok boss – do I need another source to confirm the story
FFS – what do you think this is – a feckin newpaper
Enjoyed reading this made me ??? ? there are those brainless ones now comparing Morelos to Larsson only Morelos is better….has this guy scored or played in Europe or against a far superior team. With the exception of the sheep lol
So the Daily Rectum would have us believe that King has turned down £5.8m plus £1m add-ons for Morelos from an unknown Chinese club. Because King doesn’t want to jeopardize Murty and Rangers’ performance for the rest of the season. Which means that, King values the difference between 2nd and 4th or 5th as £6.8m. BTW – That’s Morelos who supposedly cost £1m if you believe the Fat Controller – quite a mark-up. Meanwhile Club1690 are trying to raise £1m to feed the meter. Oh dear, Oh dear, oh dear. If you need a measure of the depth of shit Rangers are in, then their PR guru has just provided it on a plate. They are prepared to spout random and imaginary numbers concerning unnamed Chinese gentlemen to distract the innumerate from putting 2 and 2 together correctly. Oh dear. oh dear, oh dear.
King, personally, turns down £7m offer from Morelos from a Chinese club!
Apparently doesn’t want to dilute the firepower up front for the 2nd half of the season, according to the Daily Radar.
The only reason that we have Brexit is not,because it was voted for,but it is what the people who have the power in this country wanted.The vote was decided before any vote was cast.
Scottish people in general are happy with the situation concerning all things at Ibrox.Celtic supporters know this,if during your working life in Scotland you have not experienced the joy when Celts get a bad result consider yourself lucky.
The general feeling is,if you don’t support Celtic you support the other mob,and during my travels in Scotland this is true.
There are people that will disagree with this statement,but ask them when do they think it will change.
The PRIMROSE PLEDGE = The MAJOR PLANK on the raft that is Sevco and the Sunken Ship GRFC.
In 1920, Bill Struth whose last boat trip lad to the death of a decent wee GRFC manager, went to the Masonic and Orange Lodges and recruited Match Officials, Cops, Journalists, Bankers, wankers and bawbags. THEN they became unbeatable.
Scottish Police are not interested as are not the SMSM. One way forward and a vote winner for say a minority political party is to stand up and call out these bigots, the said minority party might find itself with many more seats in Parliament just for telling the truth and fronting the serious racism still par for the course in Scotland. So we are all ears , any party who’s values and transparency match them of Scotland’s greatest people please step forward and await the Celtic vote!!
Many moons ago an older brother at leaving school at 15 had an interview for a rather meaningless dry cleaning assistant position. One of the age old interview questions was what school did you go to son ! Needless to say he did not get the job. My old fella vowed that his family would not receive such racists bigotry again so we all moved to England. So historically my family and ancestors have relocated twice from country’s where a catholic were starved and oppressed to one where you were classed as scum. My biggest regret on the the southward move was that I have been unable to follow the Celts due to finances. I am however one of the displaced millions who will never give in to bigotry and racism. HH
Regarding referee McLean, what an utter useless entity he is. That’s two deliberate hand balls he’s ignored. Surely he is responsible to someone. This eejit is running his own book on who to do next. It is incomprehensible that this useless eejit could carry on until there is a break point. Then what?
Should have said Minority Reporter
Phil, tonight on SSB, one of the good fellows of the good old days of yore suggested that if the previous caller had been offended by Sunday’s Choir of the Bantarum’s recitations, he needed only employ the mute button on his remote! I kid you not.
Perhaps we need only cut our ears off and gouge out our eyes to be rid of this canker.
In a parallel universe, Minority Report is being serialised in the SEVCO match-day programme!
Said it before and I’ll say it again..Scotland is the Fkn Dungheap of Europe.
Cudnt agree more! My brother packed up and left for Dublin after referendum “Scotland is a bigoted backward shithole” his words
the biggest concern for the beaks at hampden is the regular pitch invasions by the hun hordes.
1- Scottish cup final,where all the hibs fans were doing was celebrating a famous win,the excuse the thick folk over ibrox way are making as their excuses
2-partick thistle-another famous win where they consolidated 3rd place and a euro spot
3-celtic-when the biggest club in Scotland came calling,there they were trying to get at the celtic captain
4- ross county-another famous win to climb up to the lofty 2nd place
so will the beaks do anything or is it ok to celebrate with players on the pitch,to be fair it will stop celtic players getting booked when they go into the stands to celebrate with the fans
Let the Huns be the Huns seems to be the policy at Hampden regards bigoted chants or newco violence. This also goes for the outrageous behaviour of King and his cronies. Self interest trumps integrity and decency at every opportunity.
Mr Regan in 2011 pledged to get rid of sectarianism in the Scottish game. That worked well did it not ! Do the SPFL not have the power to deduct points for singing sectarian and racist songs, am unsure About that.
For the time or the words
Correction tune
Perhaps sky who transmitted the volume of unacceptable crap should be charged for transmitting it at full volume. That should be simple with no commentary.
If they started to deduct points you can bet that Celtic will be the first team to have points deducted.
The repeal of the act emboldened these anachronisms to give it full voice, much like Brexit gave licence to racists to give full vent – you only had to dip a toe on twitter in the aftermath of the repeal to see that.
It also seems quite common to say , because it was targeted at football rather than other sports, that it was a law designed to target the working class – yeah, because the working class can’t help themselves when it comes to the singing sectarian songs, can they? It just involuntarily spills forth uncontrollably like hiccups. The idea that maybe other sports don’t actually have this problem seems to have been thoroughly discounted. In fact, the idea that the vast majority of other teams’ fans don’t have this problem seems to have been discounted as well. I’ve attended many games when OBFA has been in place, joined in the singing at the matches, yet I, and the rest of the crowd, managed to avoid arrest simply by not acting like arseholes.
Tell you what, while we’re about it, why don’t we repeal the drink driving laws? I mean people can have a drink in other situations and won’t be arrested, so why is it so different for drivers, eh? eh? In fact, isn’t this law unfairly targeting working class alkies/drivers, because they can’t afford a chauffeur to drive them home? Nevermind the carnage that would result, it’s the principle that matters after all, eh?
It’s simple – the act should never have been repealed unless there was something better to immediately replace it with. But that would be expecting those sponsoring the repeal to come up with something better, and that was never likely to happen. It was enough for these politicians to give the government a ‘bloody nose’ as they saw it – that’s all they cared about.
For the rest of the Scottish public, listening to Celtic and Rangers fans arguing over why it’s the other mob that need controlling and how their own songs are just fine is becoming tiresome. Nobody cares what end of the egg you open first.
“It’s simple – the act should never have been repealed unless there was something better to immediately replace it with.”
(1) It hasn’t been repealed yet.
(2) As I explained at some length there are perfectly adequate laws already on the statute book to deal with the Ibrox klan.
I voted for brexit and I’m NO RACIST! I voted to leave the EU because of the arrogant unelected turds that hold the power over the whole of Europe GET THAT, UNELECTED hand picked elite globalists. Not one of them could spell DEMOCRACY. So get your facts right before labelling someone a racist. Your probably a wee soyboy lefty eh? Says it all really. THINK for yourself son and don’t let people THINK for you.
Lol
Nice use of CAPS brother. ?
You’re suffering a delusion if you think you have somehow thumbed your nose at the elites. They are still there and stand to gain most from Brexit. To them you’re a useless idiot who can be relied to react to the waving of a flag, your Union Jack tinted glasses preventing you from seeing the spread of food banks, asset stripping of the nhs, The injustice of zero hours contracts and atos health assessments. In another era you’d have been Flanders cannon fodder. Fud.
The point being “SHOUTY WORDS” never wins an arguement or even makes people less responsive to your point of view.
The constant use of CAPS/SHOUTING usually signifies that the point you’re trying to make is spurious, open to rebutal and is merely a deflection tool. ” I made my decision about BREXIT based on non Racial / Immigration considerations. However let’s not go into them at this point”.
The E.U. is a MASONIC and Satanic club. It is owned by Satan and run by Luciferians. There is no democracy in the E.U. because they have rigged and stolen EVERY Independence Vote and will do the same for every E.U.Exit until the people simply walk away. Phil is doing a great job, but JOHN URE PRIMROSE and Billy Boy Struth, created this Sectarian Monster from 1912 to the 1920s. Under Masonic Jurisprudence anyone who exposes the deal will die. GRFC 1872-2112 shamed the LODGE. They had to go.
My dear chap – down here in ingerlund it was precisely the left wing vote that landed brexit. As for elected and unelected politicians Theresa May was elected, Michael Gove was elected, Boris Johnson was elected, Jeremy Corbin was elected – you think these people do a better job than those unelected in Brussels – think about your answer and here endth the lesson.
To your opening point – not everyone who voted brexit is racist but every racist voted brexit.
I also voted out as was my Democratic right to do so as noway was i going to be under The S. N. P. whip. As regards the bile coming from Twitter that’s a 2 way street and if the so called Brexit had been a remain vote i and many others would have Democratically accepted it. That the likes of Lineker Rowling and the last modern Irish Man to sell his Birthright for a Sir Mr Bob Geldof took to the Streets to demonstrate against a Democratic vote only made it more righteous. As regards the so called Irish Bigotry problem in Scotland. It’s only a problem if the Irish person in question is a Catholic. Many Irishmen down through the years have worn the Royal Blue of Glasgow Rangers with pride whilst nicking back to Ulster to make sure all was right for the 12th. As regards the Dingwall Hordes. The only difference from them and them walking in Anti Catholic Orange Parades is it’s legal on those days to call us Fenian Bastards and also they get to wear a Shawaddywaddy suit and Bang a Big Drum. I wonder if more attention would be taken were they singing sectarian songs against other belief systems in Multicultural Scotland .
On the compliance officer’s desk I am sure, at the bottom of a ceiling high pile topped by the report of sectarian singing by dead Rangers official party at the closed door match in Milan a good 10 years ago. He’ll be on that sharpish.
Hi Phil.
I was at Celtic Park on Saturday for a diappointing and frustrating Celtic performance v Hibs, especially in the 2nd half. I managed to get tickets for my daughter and son too, only for us all to be lambasted by moronic Green Brigade singing below us. You are at a football match so sing for your team. Equally as bad and sectarian as those at Ross County on Sunday. Just because its green tinted and politically charged with out of date Irish republicanism from the same era as Billy Fullarton its acceptable is it? Why are we not stamping out all this nonsense and why are you not calling this out? Please rise above this myopic view in the 21st century where’s we are definitely not holier than thou.
Pep
Your ignorance is the problem. Name one song sung that was racist, sectarian or offensive? Ignorant People like you are the problem. Go do some readin (if you can) and educate yourself on the difference. Imbecile!
Does your response not constitute offensive behaviour.
G’day Pep,
I was there too with my daughter in the family stand (next to the GB). What songs were those exactly? I can’t recall any songs of murderous intent.
What is the relevance to these songs given our open to all mantra. The club doesn’t want them.
The revelence is that a great many people in that stadium found they’re way to Celtic through Ireland or their Irish heritage? Maybe the way Irish Scots have been treated in the most bigoted wee country in the world for many generations because they dared to express their Irishness has struck a cord in those people? The struggle of these great many people for them goes hand in hand with Celtic FC! Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t make you right and all those people wrong ‘eldiplomato’! Celtic is different things to different people and trust me a great (possible) majority of those people disagree with your view of Celtic! Again the ignorance is unbelievable!!! And don’t think for a second the club doesn’t want them! Hilarious anyone would truly believe that!
I can see from the Reply’s Jay that a lot people on here don’t get it. Basically the retort from a number on the Celtic side is that the Gangsters they sing about are Morally superior to the gangsters Rangers sing about. For me the OBAF was always a cop out. Also, suggesting they should apply current laws and that Police should wade into the crowd…..I mean seriously, what reality do you live in. Strict Liability solves a few problems……can’t behave, we’ll take your football away. And for the guy suggesting this is most bigoted wee country in the world, in your head did that sound a lot less hysterical?
Utter dross.
‘Belting’ out songs about an occupied countries freedom and the rise up against British imperialism should not ‘Ever’ be mentioned in an article about racists celebrating the murder of a race of people, making light of child abuse, making fun of kids with Down Syndrome, killing the Pope or making light of the Irish Famine! Celtic fans such as P.Pendry jump to this point all the time and they should be ashamed of themselves for their utter ignorance! Along with the Green Brigades songbook you can also pencil in the Flower of Scotland and the Star Spangled Banner as it the identicle subject matter! An argument could be had about wether those songs need to be included at a football match but ‘Never’ in comparison to the racist, sectarian filth that is sung week in, week out at Ibrox or by the Peeepulz traveling bigoted roadshow P.Pendry!!!! Wake up ‘Celtic Fans’. HH
I concur.
Pep, are we to assume you are not a frequent visitor to Celtic Park when you were not aware that you were in the area adjacent to the Green Brigade? I ask, because I would have thought if you were familiar with the area and the GB then you would have surely known that they do, at times, sing songs which commemorate the Irish struggle against British imperialism and which, contrary to your belief, continues to this day! I am not aware of any songs of this nature which advocate wading knee high in Protestant blood nor which mock dementia sufferers and gleefully sing of the impending demise of players from a history-making football team. Nor do they sing catchy ditties about the genocide/ethnic cleansing of a race!
Yes, I’m Irish and I am massively insulted that you dare to compare the folk music commemorating the legitimate struggle of my people to the vile xenophobic, racist and downright nasty “songs” of that other team. I get that you do not wish to hear songs of Irish history at your Scottish football ground -though many enjoy these songs as I’m sure you are very well aware- but don’t you dare compare us to that other shower who only know how to glorify vile deeds and sing songs full of hate!
not hearing a lot about the pitch invasion, Does this mean Celtic (and anyone elses fans) can invade the park at Dingwall whenever their team scores a goal! ?
We listen to this bile coming through our television sets. The evidence is there. It’s sickening that this can go on unchallenged.
You see, sevco fans know, yes, know, that their club died in 2012. With this knowledge they see no point in holding back from belting out their repertoire of hate-filled anthems because it will not adversely affect the, ahem, reputation of the original rangers (IL). It is my view, that this mob is even worse than fans of the original rangers (IL). They will continue to sing their “naughty” ditties at games until their beloved basket of assets dies. Hopefully that event happens soon. 14th Feb is a date I look forward to every year, and not just because of the volume of cards I receive from pretty ladies.
Why the 14th. We have had all this carp before. They will never be allowed to die.
14th Feb 2012 was the beginning of the end. Duff n Phelps turned up and, well, you know the rest …
Folks should be contacting the Irish Consulate in Edinburgh,Irish Embassy in London, Irish minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney and demanding,asking why they have never carpeted Stuart Regan,Nicola Sturgeon ,to find out why these two individuals have never taken any action,condemned, spoken out when it comes to the weekly outpouring of anti Irish racism coming from the Billy Fullerton fanclub.
If Sturgeon,Regan fail to act the consulate in Edinburgh should be closed straight away to highlight the blatant racism directed towards the Irish community/diaspora in Scotland.
Sturgeon backed OBFA. That is the only attempt by any Scottish government to stamp out sectarianism at football matches, unless you know of something I don’t. It might be flawed but at least they had the guts to try which is much more than any Tory or Labour politician had the gahonnies to do.
Regardless of who has cojones at Holyrood there was adequate legislation to deal with the Ibrox klan before the OBFTCA 2012 was enacted.
The courts will deal with such chaps (David Limond).
However, they must first be arrested and charged.
This is a policing issue.
A failure to act on the ground.
Why not legislation to fine clubs or deduct points. ? Surely that would hit them harder than a supporter getting 10 hours community service ?
I know there would be no lead from the SFA, or SPL, and indeed it is sad that the government has to intervene, but there appears little other option than the legislative route
Because only one team would lose points and they wouldn’t be in blue. Please don’t give them any more ways to cheat us out of trophies.
Phil driving at 32 miles an hour in a 3o mile zone is against the law and a policing issue. If everyone that was guilty of this offence, was charged and penalised what sort of, response would that invite. It would also be a logistical nightmare. Is it not better to attempt to encourage better behaviour, than to do nothing at all. The OBFA was clearly not the answer, however it was designed to give a preventative message, a bit like signs saying this is a 30 mile per hour Zone.Too much point scoring, and bogey men hunting. If Scotland doesn’t deal with its anti social issues surrounding alcohol, you can come up with any law you like, there are those who will always break them, especially those who cannot attend a match sober.
We should be like Ameruca and adopt freedom of speech. This namby pamby approach to what is offensive is pathetic. Let the people sing.
Oh dear
Oh dear indeed Phil, racism is not nampy pamby, but out and out neanderthal.
Sorry, should have spelled neanderthal with a capital , as we are dealing with an extinct species here!!!!
Radio Scotland made no attempt to hide the pre-match rendition that seemed to continue relentlessly…
Tom English and others had to compete with the full KKK Choir (ibrox branch) to even be heard. Instead of pointing out the disgusting nature of the singing they congratulate the travelling ‘Gers’ fans for their ‘good voice’.
We need Regan gone now … And not for the Scotland manager farce ( that’s just doing his job badly) … But for the endless rule breaking to suit the needs of the establishment club that will not be allowed to die. It’s clear who actually holds the power in Scottish football and it’s not Peter Lawell.
Maybe if Regan is gone (for whatever reason) we can get in an untainted leader who will allow the truths to be unearthed, aired and put right. Until then nothing will change.
Scotland 2018?!?!?
Sevco… The football worlds equivalent of the ‘jobby that just won’t flush away’.
What a brilliant description!
You should have copyrighted that last sentence,.
It’s going to be used repearedly from now on.
Might have been wrtiten by our ain Bard himself. Pity he was a Mason and member of the Speculative Society.
Mr Barnet! I recall in the seventies a BBC broadcast had to be aborted due to the Oldco bile. Also heard .Archie Mcfiercehun describe the blood stained kneecaps choir as “roistering “.
Only a point Archie was always known as favouring Celtic. To call him Mcfiercehun is totally wrong. I know this as a fact.
To be honest in days gone by the orange/fenian songs were almost accepted as part of the game. He would have commented on it as it was a regular occurrence. IMO.
This is true.
Phil as a journalist yourself, surely you know at least one colleague here in Scotland you could drop a line and ask one of the very fine journalists to write something up?
the louder they become the deafer the media become
Surely just a small minority of fans. The first 15 mins was enough for me. I would have thought the dynamic duo, Kris and Kris would have been all over the pitch invasion and offensive singing !
Given that the only thing that Tweets in my house is Henrik the Budgie….
(He also sings ” You are my Larsson” )
I will use this forum to send a message to Chris McLaughlin at BBC Scotland….as I’m absolutely sure he reads it avidly.
Mr. McLaughlin you earn a probably over-inflated salary, at an organisation which exists, thanks to people like me who pay their Licence Fee.
So what I’m saying is…I help pay your wages and in return I expect balanced and accurate reporting of football events in Scotland.
That, however, is not being provided by you…as can be seen over the last few years.
But I have to highlight your recent response regarding Sectarian singing at Dingwall…as totally unacceptable.
It is not your place to defend one faction and attack another…that’s not what we pay you for.
So have another wee think about how you have handled this…and if an apology is beyond you…then privately I hope you’re at best embarrassed…and at worst…ashamed of yourself.
Why do you still pay a tv license …… you dont need it ,its a clear cut case of fear mongering do some research and cancel it
Has Sevco still to comment on the scenes in Florida a few weeks back?
If they didn’t, that in itself is surely a news story.
Well, there you have it, the BBC chappies do not have time to involve themselves in reporting of offensive songs and pitch invasions. They have a solution just do not have your ear to close to the TV set. Impartial advice as ever from the good Imperialist BBC.
Incidentally Chris must be tricky trying to have a pint and watch a game when all the punters have an ear stuck to the telly.
Police Scotland ignore presistent mass public racist criminality
SFA ignore persistent mass public racist criminality
SMSM ignore persistent mass racist criminality
MSPs ignore persistent mass racist criminality
Scottish Churchmen ignore persistent mass racist criminality
Scotland, on what basis do you call yourself a modern. liberal democracy ?
I wonder how many other grounds around the country heard songs to the Glory of IRA terrorists?
Singing in praise of a terrorist organisation of course is likely in contravention of the Terrorism Act 2000.
Calling Neil McCann a “sad Orange Bastard” would ironically enough also be in contravention of the two acts you site in your piece.
The wider point here of course is that we are seeing the (Celtic) fans against criminalisation strategy play out.
Now it is clear they Offensive Behaviour at football act is about to be repealed, Celtic supporters can resume their original plan of only highlighting songs or chants from Rangers fans.
The point being of course that the act was only ever supposed to target Rangers fans. Once it was clear that the right to praise terrorists or stage mock executions of Rangers supports was going to come under scope of the act then all bets were off and it had to be opposed at all costs.
Or maybe it’s a coincidence that days after the parliament voted to repeal the act that Celtic supporters suddenly felt the need complain about horrible songs again?
Obviously this will not be posted.
JOE.
firstly your comment was posted.
I cannot disagree with a lot of what you say, however it is key to understand, and clearly you dont…. as you wouldnt have indulged in a course of whataboutery.
Singing a song about ethnic cleansing is simply unacceptable. You see its racist, its pandering to the far right, do you not understand that??
The points about IRA chanting yes i am with you, however these are songs of beating oppression and state terror however undesireable the history may be. The IRA and actions during the troubles on all sides were a result of a major fuck up by the british government and most likley a deliberate one too.
What ultimately you fail to see here is this is racism. Its pure hate about wading in fenian blood. Cant you understand how wrong that is.
The IRA chanting on celtic side however wrong it is, and i dont condone it. Is glorifying the armed struggle against british state oppression. To me its no different to an ANC song in South Africa.
At no point are the innocent victims of warrington et al targets yet the songs from the rangers side are just that.
Look i dont expect you to get this Joe. What i will say is this, celtic have clearly said there is no place for this at celtic park.
Rangers simply said the Billy Boys could lead to arrests they did not necessarily make a stand against the song itself.
Joe, you make reference to “Rangers fans”.
I hope you realise that this can only be in an historical context, so eloquently explained by the best striker in Scotland in response to yet more sick and vile accusations from one of your number:
“Yer club’s deid mate. Beat it.”
I have opposed the opposite songbook, which has more GOOD SONGS, but still blasts out RA C R A P week after week.
YOU TUBE – Expatwithwisdom 2012 The Neil Lennon Song and not a RA to be heard.
The year is 2018, where we apparently live in a progressive and tolerant society. Yet in Scotland, supposedly a modern, progressive, first world nation, it is acceptable to sing a ‘naughty’ (what a pathetic description) song about wading in the blood of Irish people.
Tell me, in what other society is this kind of singing and behaviour acceptable, North Korea maybe? Iran? I don’t know, where or how do you rate the sort of society that accepts this?
Journalists, real journalists, win awards for calling out shit like this, but Scottish journalists are running scared from a football club which dictates the majority of what they write in sports journalism. Think about that for a minute, a football club…..
Name another country where a football club has that much influence the press and society itself?
This tells you clearly that the football club is just a front for something a lot more sinister.
Get used to it. Some things will never change in this pathetic little country. Just as ” The Rangers” will never be allowed to go under no matter what they get up to.
Well said! So much for Scotland being an outward looking country full of warm embrace for our fellow man, when this bile goes unreported. It’s disgusting!
It’s worse than that. It’s the tribute act to a defunct football club.
They are closer to fascism than realised. When the Nazi propoganda machine demonised the Jewish people they used exactly the same methodology as in The Billy Boys and The Famine song.
it goes along the lines of “you don’t belong here” ” “you are inferior to us” “you are not trusted with children”, “We are a chosen people”.
All out of Mein Kampf.
When Ireland was starved by its then rulers, the rest of the UK, denominations from both sides Catholic and Protestant moved to another part of what was then ,their country. They had both starved together. Protestants brought the Orange Order with some 140 lodges in Glasgow alone. Somehow the Rangers fans have deliberately turned this narrative on its head to make Catholics feel indebted to them. Straight out of Goebbels. Time to get the facts straight. This country is sick of sectarianism in all its forms.
OBFA might not be popular to football fans but ever opinion poll shows general public support. Sorry, but that is just fact.
What a corrupt country we live in. I just wish there was something we could do. KTF.
I made a similar point in a tweet reply to a state funded TV “journo”.
There is a gulf between “offensive” & “illegal” but it suits many to obfuscate, gloss over and deflect.
Evil pervades where good men fail to speak up.
The blue pound buys more than just baskets of assets ?
Coincidentally, I arranged for a journalist at the match to write down exactly which words he heard being sung. His feedback was interesting…
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2018/01/28/calling-out-the-billy-boys/
I particularly enjoyed one chap using the phrase “smell blood” in his reportage of the Sevco dominance of part of the game… And then taking umbrage when the irony was pointed out…
https://twitter.com/bbcchrismclaug/status/957739428436422656
Funny how the chap in question is the one who ‘offended’ the ‘Peepul’ resulting in an IBrokes ban and BBC boycot. Clear to see who rubs the show!
I’m led to believe that no action will be taken re tge fans who celebrated the Messiesque second goal. It has been deemed that they were still in the stand, albeit they were “improperly aligned with their seats”.
Another use of the “improper” situation.
Nice one Johnny.
Enjoyed that.
“and the massed choir was only ever so slightly naughty… So nothing to see or hear now. So move on Timmy et al”.
The singing is repugnant to any fair minded individual. The silence from the SMSM deems them complicit ! HH
There is no silence ! Just articles calling it Banter or Irrelevant – McLaughlin, Gannon, Neil Cameron all downplaying it as SNP retreat from original comments , realising OBFA is useless !
Probably no arrests either yesterday for sectarian/illegal songbook before game had even started & encroachment onto pitch !
Police Scotland at their best – useless !
not useless – actively choosing not to do the job they have sworn to Queen and country that they will do – with full approval of their superiors right up to the top of Police Scotland and up into government. Let’s call it what it is – a stronger allegance – across all ranks – to other oaths they have sworn to a clandestine and sinister organisation that has no place in a moderns, liberal democracy.
You have nailed it. Police Scotland are useless, unless of course you happen to drive a car, then the Police or as i call them, Tax Collectors, will do something. This country is rotten to the core.
Not to mention the referee who turned a blind eye to one of the most blatant hand balls ever…
Referee McLean has previous in the Cup Semi Final. It was amazing that he gave RossCounty a penalty that was not in the 90th minute when it did not matter.
Unfortunately we know the script here, this is nothing new