Well now.
For the day that’s in it…
All that Brexit craic!
So, if you are in Britain then slán abhaille.
However, if you’re in the Six Counties then it is Slán go fóill…
As my Cumann na mBan granny in Mayo used to remind me “thank god we’re surrounded by water!”
I believe that Brexit is a game-changer in the geo-politics of this archipelago.
Back in February 2016, before the referendum, I wrote this for Bella Caledonia.
I think it is worth another read.
Living on the Border I had a clear perspective that Partition as an issue would be back on the agenda for all of the people of this island.
More and more people are now being drawn to “Think 32”.
It is not a rare event now to know someone in Northern Ireland from a unionist background who are seriously considering their constitutional options.
That is particularly the case for my neighbours just the other side of that arbitrary line.
Last year I was asked to put down in words my lived experience of the Border for the Think 32 blog.
I doubt that such a site would even exist without the impending chaos of Brexit.
In my writing here I have consistently referred to the decision by the UK to leave the European Union as a “slow moving Suez crisis”.
Moreover, I haven’t seen anything to change my mind on that initial assessment of Brexit.
Like all revolutions-and Brexit IS a revolution- it is the world turned upside down.
Post Offices in Loyalist areas of Béal Feirste ran out of application forms for Irish passports!
Brexit has inserted yet another pathogen into the disordered world view of the self- styled PUL community.
With the UK leaving thing the European Union it became rapidly clear to some, including your humble correspondent, that Northern Ireland was the Schleswig-Holstein Question of Brexit.
Of course, what happened at the Lifford bridge once the Brits had left the EU did not feature in any of the debates in 2016.
We are a far-off country of which they know little.
That essential fact is starting to dawn on many of my previously loyal neighbours in Derry and Tyrone.
Faced with a united front in Brussels Boris decided that Sammy in Norn Iron was surplus to requirements.
So, under the big red bus, he went!
In terms of trade regulations, the Six Counties is now an EU protectorate.
There was always going to be an Irish border post-Brexit.
The only questions was would the barrier be at Larne or Lifford.
Many in Scotland think that Brexit is “no fair”.
I can see the point of those who voted against independence in 2014 based on wishing to remain in an EU member state.
Put it down as consequential learning…
Today SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon admitted that another independence referendum was unlikely this year.
For the avoidance of doubt, while Boris is in Number Ten that is almost certainly the case.
During the Withdrawal Agreement negotiations, Prime Minister Theresa May had a unique situation as a British leader.
Until the Irish government signed off on Phase One of the talks nothing else would move.
For the first time in history, a polity on this island held sway over the one in Westminster.
In terms of full disclosure, your humble correspondent was deluged in feelgood Schadenfreude at the vista of Brit impotence.
The British political elite was introduced to a term that would haunt their dreams:
The Backstop.
Ultimately there could be a hard border on this island if the British wanted a deal with Brussels.
Farage and the Brexiteers smugly assumed that there would come an 11th hour moment when the German car industry would call Mutti and tell her to do the deal.
It never happened and Chancellor Merkel remained communitaire throughout.
Tonight, in London the Brexit Party will hold a Brexit party in Parliament Square.
They want to celebrate this historic moment.
Of course, they are entirely correct to believe that history is happening today.
However, it may well turn out very differently in the years to come to what they are hoping for.
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With regards Independence and the SNP, What most don’t seem to grasp is once Independence is granted ( and it will be ) there will be no SNP as their job is done. Elections will be held and Labour Tories, whoever, will run the country. The SNP may well rebrand and take part in elections but for the first time Scotland will get the party Scots voted for and not the one England voted for.
The North England will get their payback day soon for voting in mad Boris and all his chums . In a few months time Easter holidays May bank holidays the English will be out protesting against Boris and his plans for the future of the country and we can all have a laugh at them . As the very people protesting in the North of England against his plans and policies are ones that voted him in . You could not make this up . Even reports on Sky news the other night told people that the place Brexit is going to hurt the most will be the North of England . Hell slap it into them DENSE is a word that is way to good to describe this lot .
45% of Scots voting for mad Nicola and all her chums. DENSE is the word that comes to mind. Look at all the damage she is doing to Scotland. Read my link above. Delete your cookies and internet history to read as often as you like.
As an independent country everything would be much much worse.
Why is no one protesting against her? Why are imbeciles out walking about waving flags in support of snp incompetence? It honestly beggars belief. My fellow Scots are truly ill educated dumb ass self harm junkies. Read the facts and wise up.
The fact is simple. One fact alone wipes out yours and anyone elses argument. Scotland contributes more to Westminster than is returned via the Barnett formula.
Our fisheries, farming, wind and wave, whiskey as well as manufacturing and sales of goods and services will suffice to level the playing field and that’s without oil and gas which is a cherry on top.
I wouldn’t go near SNP in an independent Scotland.
Labour? No chance, not while they still hold Donald “traitor” Dewar is such high esteem. Nor for siding with English Tories
Independent Scotland can and will forge its way ahead, as Renton said in Trainspotting “we are the ones allowing ourselves to be ruled by effete English”
No, SNP are not to blame for the current financial burden weighing on our Scots shoulder, they are doing the best they can with limited power.
Labour and Tony Blair’s lot as well as Tory policy to strangle rights of workers are to blame.
We can and will lift ourselves out of this myre.
Instead of Independence, we could have the Westminster government that brought us, among many other things, Austerity, Universal Credit and Brexit. It is a simple choice.
Holyrood and SNP fails us daily. Read the honest truth of it not snp lies:
https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/nine-dismal-lowlights-that-demonstrate-the-snp-is-failing-scotland-pamela-nash-1-5082931
Whilst Nippy The Ned is taking up Holyrood time debating the EU flag, Scotland suffers under her and her incompetents.
Independence would deliver ten times worse. No other set of Scottish politicians could fix an independence disaster. Whilst Nippy and her cohorts run off to their bolt hole villas in Portugal.
1. Independence isn’t granted.
2. Scots vote for the Union. Thank God.
3. Independence is not inevitable. The good union will perpetuate.
4. SNP will try and keep power and go on forever.
5. SCOTLAND would be right royally fucked on independence.
Your post is both erroneous and full of lies.
Gary K
Point 1correct
Point 2 correct for past tense – good Union very subjective term
Point 3 not inevitable correct. Good union perpetuate – to perpetuate what ? This is verb it has to perpetuate something – plenty of different opinions on this.
4.This will be in the hands of the Scottish people – it is called Democracy.
5.Entirely subjective – Many think we have been r.f. since 1970’s (reference McCrone Report).
You also appear to have mixed this subject up with underage girls who have met Prince Andrew.
Will Stevie G be as quick to apologise to the good people of Glasgow as he was to opine on the terrible things that were happening to Morelos, what with the alleged racist abuse suffered by the torn faced Colombian, followed by the claim of someone found under his car, on the assumption that the mechanism of the car was being targeted.
How silly he’s looking this morning with the media story today that the so called saboteur was in fact a private detective hired by Morelos wife who had given him access to the secure car park to fit a tracker to the Colombian’s car.
Oh dear, oh dear, and another transfer window gone with no offers for Morelos.
time to conserve our nation states, read the books, the diversity delusion or d murrays, the strange death of europe.
be honest the anglo/celts norman, /picts became a great people that created the best world to date, a country where many wish to be, if any of the remoaners are unhappy i suggest you go live in that wonderful place of europe , how about france, diversity up to the eye balls..
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save your nation ireland and back the nationalists.before you start to suffer the diversity of grooming gangs ,i see one was found recently in glasgow and has been covered up for some time.
never forget, people gravitate to their own its natural.
keep scotland scottish, japan japanese,africa for africans, poland for the polish etc..
happy brexit day everyone.
You’re a few hundred years too late with your advice, I’m afraid!! The Portuguese, the Dutch, the French, the Belgians, the Germans, and of course, the British have already colonised half the globe in their efforts at empire-building. I suppose RAPE AND PILLAGE is the same in any european language.
I have no time for the internationalists. All nationalism is worth supporting. Scottish, Irish, english and French. National fronts unite. Nazism and Zionism. Trumpism and putinism.
The world will be a better place with all the flag wavers.
Every man for himself.
could not have said it better the msm should have a front page apologising to all scottish football fans for a shit post of a story when they bloody knew the truth !
So with the Ibrox chances of securing Group Stage CL qualification rapidly diminishing, not a single bid for Tav or Alfredo, how the hell can they see out the season?
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Any promises of CL income to potentially gullible investors was lies. No CL income for at least another 2 years. Time to wind it back for them and play it within their budget to try and survive.
Slippy has lost the dressing room ergo the club is bust with no chance of success or Euro major income.
Slippy consistently throwing the players under a bus has killed SEVCO. They’ve quite rightly downed tools.
It’s February, has King left as promised? As it plummets into meltdown. Or was it another lie?
Over a million Scots voted for Brexit.
SNP would like that to be conveniently forgotten.
Over a million of us were happy last night plus those who don’t vote but wanted it.
Given snp have a % of voters who are basically anarchists. Those who are destructive and want to bring down anything, including the UK, Boris should bring in a Scottish Referendum to Close down Holyrood and return devolved powers to Westminster.
He would get 55% plus more for that.
Result would be end of SNP ned hysterics and acting up. That’s all the Scottish Parliament is now.
SNP at Holyrood are ruining SCOTLAND with KPIs going backwards on everything. There’s a scandal weekly. Scots deserve a Referendum on Holyrood performance. Holyrood is failing us. Close it down.
The latest scandal is the Scottish Futures Trust SNP PPI £40 billion disgraceful incompetence.
If a party in Scotland proposing to close down Holyrood gains a majority they would be able to do this.
In light of current voting patterns this appears highly unlikely.
It is for the Scottish Parliament to decide their own fate not Westminster.
If Boris Johnson was to follow your advice I have no doubt it would increase support for Independence just as his strategy over Brexit has.
If you do not see that you are living in your own bubble.
If the Scottish Parly is incompetent, wasteful with money and delivering worsening performance for Scots in devolved areas then Westminster has a duty of care to step in and sort things. Westminster is the mother of parliaments providing superior oversight to Holyrood. You clearly do live in an snp bubble where you erroneously think you can hold an unlawful IndyRef2. I look forward to executing a citizens arrest on Wee Nippy Ned if she tries it.
Read the Devolution settlement.
Westminster cannot legally shutdown in Holyrood – it has to be the democratic wish of Scottish people.
FYI – I did not vote SNP at last election.
Your response and tone is at best undemocratic and as for arresting the elected First Minister – fascist is the only term to describe that comment.
It’s true. SNP piss on Holyrood Dignity and don’t give a shit about Devolved government. They don’t give a shit about governing performance. It just became a platform of protest for them. Take away the platform.
Piss and shit.That’s the SNP to a tee.
I would gladly vote for abolishment if such a referendum came about.
1.67 million voted to stay in EU.
38% of people that turned out in Scotland voted Leave.
25% of overall electorate in Scotland expressed a preference to leave.
Democracy?
Talk about twisted logic. You want to take the the percentage of the vote for your arguement but the percentage of the electorate for those who disagree with you.
38% of those who voted to leave. 62% voted to stay.
By your own figures this means around 16% of the electorate voted to leave.
Let’s take YOUR logic further. In the UK 17.5 million voted to leave. Or about 27.5 % of the UK POPULATION.
Sorry pal. You’re symptomatic of all the people I personally know who voted remain.
I have checked my figures.
Where do you get 16% from.
What I am questioning is in a binary selection which is change or status quo can no vote be considered as not wanting to change (certainly not enthusiastic about change).
This is not applicable to a GE where different options on offer.
The main point I was going to make is that whichever way you split it Scotland does not want to leave EU and is being dragged out against its will!
Interestingly as I have outlined below 37% of overall electorate voted for Brexit and Independence and 37% voted for Devolution in 1979 when there was 40% threshold.
All depends who makes the rules?
I think you’ll find that the £40Billion PFI bill is due to Scottish Labour. 55% support to close Holyrood? While you’ll not get anywhere close to 30% in that regard, it’ll mostly be the Orange Order types voting that way.
I’ve got to wonder what a sychophantic, cap doffer to Westminster is doing on this blog???
Whether or not you are a Remainer or Brexiteer everyone must have cringed when Nigel Farage gave that smarmy bye bye speech at the E.U. Parliament. Him and Widdicome waving their wee Union flegs was utterly crass and totally embarrassing. These people are supposed to have represented us while lining their pockets at the same time with European money. Shysters the lot of them. HH
They were happy to lose their jobs.So you’ve got that wrong.
I think their pockets are already well lined. Failed or has-been Westminster politicians. Or people who couldn’t evenget their noses into that trough.
The only people happy to lose their jobs are those who have already fleeced the taxpayer and can afford to live without the need of an income. HH
I think Daniel Stendel and Dereck McInnes have both shown they are better managers than Slip up slippy G.
Slippy said cant afford to blink any more. Then one game later, another SEVCO blink. A lot of blinking at Ibrox these days.
All managers can harvest points from this SEVCO outfit. Bang average players with bang average rookie manager.
3-0, 3-1, 3-0, Celtic need to aim for invincibles status for second half of season. Invincible in Scottish Cup. Invincible in League and a fourth Treble with medals all round.
All Nationalism is divisive.
All politics is divisive.
It’s the nature of the beast!
In human history, Nationalism and Communism have been the two most evil destructive political models created. Folks must reject both.
Another of your magnificent sweeping statements – where did you read that one – in the Beano?
Let me reply on the same level – one man’s nationalist is another man’s freedom fighter.
Mahatma Ghandi fought for independence of India from British Empire.
You can go the full range of good to bad from Ghandi to Milosevic in Serbia in nationalism.
Life is far more complex than easy simple slogans so loved by demagogues and empty vessels.
Thank you
SNP are anti Ghandi.
That much is clear. Even for you.
I refer you to my above comment about using simplistic empty slogans.
Please reference me a comment made by an SNP spokesman criticising Ghandi or do not spout personal prejudices.
Thanks
Huge turnout in George Square last night celebrating the historic event.
100 souls singing Rule Britannia…. no need to guess what stone they crawled from under.
The quiet reasonable majority always sits at home. God bless them.
Pitiful to see the few dozen Union Jack waving ghouls in George Square last night. Each of them fully aware it was orchestrated by a known right-wing holocaust denier. No surprises that he’s also been affiliated with OO. All very unhealthy, with a hint of Mississippi Burning.
Over one million Scots voted for Brexit.
Over FOUR million didn’t.
Now that we are out of the EU and looking back at it, how dare they have the arrogance of telling a Sovereign State how many immigrants we should let into our country, tell us what our quota is.
You get suckered into the belief they have the right of supremacy over us. That we must obey. It’s a drip drip drip giving away of our Sovereign rights to strangers. Powers over us they should never have had.
It started as a mutual economic community. It became a foreign empire of rule makers.
Thank God we are out.
Northern Ireland is a backwater. It’s shocking the stuff that still goes on their. I think most right thinking people in Britain who want nothing to do with a national where this is common place https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,,1122891,00.html
Northern Ireland is a big plook on the face of the earth .The UK should grant them Independence.Maybe wee Nicola could move over there and take them back into the EU.
Boris Johnston is an overpaid Thatcherite arsehole.
That said and done there are over 30,000 Thatcherite arseholes currently being overpaid within the EU.
Now we have got shot of those 30,000 we only need concentrate on the one who now has no excuses.
If there is anyone on this site who can recognize an arsehole it is certainly you as you are the biggest arsehole on here.
You appear to have elevated yersel to some kind of relevance man of multiple logins.
Now away and raffle yersel.
Brexit is primarily an excercise in English nationalism dressed up as British nationalism.
The reverberations of the identity politics will last for a long time with unforeseable consequences.
Boris Johnson has surfed this nationalism to get Tories into power – which is fundamentally all they care about.
JP is that not the same as Irish/ Scottish nationalism,or any other country,reading between Phil’s blog is that it may / will end up as unification which is a result.
Absolutely NOT. Scottish Nationalism is NOT the same as the jingoistic, sabre rattling, aggressive, racist, “They need us more than we need them” attitude of the English Nationalists. Scottish Nationalism is the Nationalism of a people who want their own destiny to be in their own hands.
The Scottish Parliament is an absolute effing waste of tax cash .Why the f$@k do we need them. What f#@k¢%g benefit do we derive from having it.
Total amateurs behaving like school kids in the playground. Pretending that they make our lifes better when all they care about is feathering their own nest. Holyrood should be abolished and the money saved could be better spent elsewhere.
Like, Westminster??… oh dear!!
Benefits?
Free tuition for our children at higher education, free prescriptions for all, mitigation of the bedroom tax and the best performing NHS in Britain.
I could go on.
Independence for Ireland. Independence for Scotland.
Spot on
Absolute waste of money!
Nationalism has many variations and can take many forms.
The wish for self determination is not in itself a bad thing and can be a way of freeing a nation from an oppressive situation eg the splitting up of USSR.
It can also unfortunately be used to promote a superiority of a nation over others and hatred of others.
My take on Brexit is that a major strain promoted by UKIP and cynically used by Tories is that it is British exceptionalism) laced with a dislike of foreigners which is a hangover from empire. The way the vote was split between England and other countries in UK tends towards thinking it is not a feeling shared in Scotland& Norther Ireland.
Brexit and the identity issues it had raised will not go away just because BJ says Brexit is done.
Whether this leads to a unified Ireland and independent Scotland No one knows but it has certainly not reduced the chance of this happening.
@JP I have no doubt whatsoever that was the case for a good number of people.
However I voted Brexit purely as a rejection of the Neoliberal Politics that controls the EU.
On a side 30,000 employees within the EU currently lift more in wages than the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
I am sorry to say that like other left wing leavers you have been naive and helped deliver the UK to the right wing neoliberal fundamentalists who make the EU look like a socialist state.
A state of affairs that will no doubt means the poorest of our society will suffer most.
Surely you realise that the socialism of Jeremy Corbyn will never be accepted in the UK no matter how much you (and me) might want it.
The poorest in our Society are/were already suffering within the EU.
Austerity,Zero Hour Contracts,Foodbanks have all existed in tandem with being in the EU.
The difference is now the arseholes who control the UK no longer have the excuse of the EU or Socialism and whilst it will be a difficult time in the short term I do believe the long term benefits of rejecting an Eternity of Neoliberal Policy in the EU for the chance to reject it periodically in the UK was worth the risk.
No naivety here bud I voted for the long term future of the next Generations who I think will watch the slow collapse of what has been one big con trick by the Capitalist who control it.
This Country is a shambles right now it needs fixing.
It needs fixing without the interference often EU.
We are just the first to reject it there will be others.
Democratic Socialism needs a voice bud and folk like us need to keep shouting and need to keep shining the light on what is actually going on.
Otherwise what is the actual point of an Election?
Cyan – like so many on left you live in your own little fantasy world.
I try to see the world as it is and try and act and vote for most effective change to Social Democratic policies. (I.e. for fairness & justice for more than rich).
Following Brexit I see a much higher chance of this happening in an independent Scotland than UK.
Do you also see an a Independent Scotland rushing straight back to the EU for a rather large dose of the Economic Policies that helped create these imbalances in the first place?
Or is it as I suspect you think your own wee world will be draped in Tartan with Salmon leaping from every river to a back drop of a Gerry Cinnamon 12” dance version of Caledonia?
Most British people couldn’t care less about Northen Ireland and wouldn’t mind at all if we got rid of the backward dump.
Hear Hear
Nicola please lobby for a referendum on NI independence and f@$#k¢®g leave the “People of Scotland” where we previously voted to remain.
Would they care more perhaps if they were made aware that holding on to it is currently costing the Treasury over £10bn a year?
To put that into perspective that money would write of the Tax Burden put into Tax Payers after the 2008 Crash in under 3 Years.
ie No need for the Austerity measures put in place over the last Decade.
I think when the history books are written in the future they will look on today as the day partition effectively ended.
It will take some time for it to become clear, but the workings of basic economics will bring it about at some stage, at which time any border poll will become a minor issue.
The North may retain sterling as it’s nominal currency, but with banknotes that are not recognised outside the province, and with the likely creeping use of the euro firstly along the border towns and villages in the North, and then becoming more increasingly prevalent closer to Belfast, the Six Counties will effectively become part of the eurozone.
If the initial Brexit bounce to the UK economy flattens out quickly, as many expect it to do especially outside London and the Home Counties, this process will happen quicker and the NI Assembly will turn more and more to Dublin and the EU for cooperation.
The majority, even possibly within Unionism, will then come to look at the border in the Irish Sea as a necessity rather than an insult.
Selling a United Ireland in such circumstances will be a more straightforward thing than it is at present.
Whether SF have the patience to deliver, or whether they will demand the humiliation of the Unionist population is one of the main stumbling blocks.
I didn’t think that I would live to see it, but a United Ireland with the agreement of all traditions on the island is a much closer prospect than at any time in the past.
Correct me if im wrong,does the republic not owe the uk 23billion after it was in the shit in 2008, yes or no
NO. paid back with a lot of interest long ago.
BTW the UK were not saving any Irish banks. It was saving it’s own banks in Ireland.
Happy to clear that up for you 👍
The UK Taxpayer saved the Banks (whilst the Banks caused the problem)
Fixed that for you.
When
As off a Friday night, just having a beer, and come across one them count down to Brexit programmes.
John Barnes was on it, and was actually probably the best on what was being said.
He struck a chord when he said; this is not a victory for Brexit but a battle won.
In a year to two years we will see who has won and lost. I know how hard it is for people who are Black or Asian out there.
Yes John knows his stuff.
Roughly translated; who they going to blame when it goes pear shaped.
Sound familiar to anybody growing up here in the 70s or 80s
Nope thought so ! What school did you go too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=610353615808233
Posted before but two excellent videos that Phil should watch ( but I doubt he will ).
The money wasted by this job for the boys jolly will die when other countries ( France and Germany ) see how much more they have to put in to keep the gravy train running.
Phil, with all due respect, you don’t live in the UK
The country is falling apart, too many people, not enough infrastructure, no real tax payers to pay for it all
People are skint.
You seem to believe the tories and EU politicians for some reason. The UK is not really leaving the EU, its #brino.
This story has a long way to go.
The traitors in Westminster aren’t to gecteusyed, you of all men should know that
Believe what they do, not what they say.
Hey, some people are skint. Some are doing fine. The pnes with chateaux in france and that.
Should the fourth sentence below the first picture not have read: “We are a far off country of which they know little, and care even less”
Yes Phil you’re out of touch, Varadkar’s government is despised throughout Ireland whilst many middle class nationalists in the North including myself want no part of being in a United Ireland. The EU is an undemocratic organisation who made Ireland vote again when they rejected the Lisbon treaty. They thought they could get Britain to vote again re: Brexit but they couldn’t push them around so easily. Britain is the first country to leave the EU but it won’t be the last.
Absolutely well said. Well done you.
Sparks, if you do not wish for a United Ireland then you are a Unionist. You cannot call yourself a Nationalist.
Aye. It’s a contradiction of terms.
Yeah I get your point. I was using nationalist as a lazy synonym for Catholic, perhaps a Catholic unionist would be a better description. There are thousands like me in NI and those hoping to win a border poll would need our votes.
Varadkar’s government may very well be despised throughout Ireland. The next election will disclose if it’s despised by a MAJORITY throughout Ireland. There’s a world of a difference.
A money pit of hatred ! This is the phrase that best describes Northern Ireland , boris may be many things but a fool he is not , he like very many British taxpayers would gladly let Northern Ireland become Eire’s problem, it costs the British taxpayer millions per year to keep the outpost and all decent thinking people have no interest in the goings on between both sides there , Britain may not be great ! at times , but we don’t have peace walls and outdated murals defacing our communities , the sooner we are rid of Northern Ireland the better.
The tiger Britain would love to dismount.
Brexit is so that the rich can do away with the workers rights which up until now have been protected by Europe but unfortunately they also protected the indefensible criminals and this is what got all the publicity and people up in arms. Also there were the ridiculous scare stories involving armies of invading refugees with which we were to be inundated. No one mentioned wanting to leave the European Market with its abundance of inexpensive food like quality cheeses, fruit and wines, something we will come to regret.
Boris and Jacob are dragging us back to the Victorian era.
Along with the media they did a hell of a job and I doff my cap to them just to get in some practice.
What workers rights? Zero hour contracts, companies changing workers contracts to suit them. What have the EU did about them? Heehaw!
Well for example they are considering allowing other medical staff fast track training for a GP qualification, something not allowed under EC rules. They have stated as such and the excuse is to ease the NHS but basically it is to save money.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/19/nurses-could-train-become-doctors-part-time-medical-degrees/
I am assuming doctors are workers…
Forget “scare stories etc.” ; instead think about accommodating a city the size of Newcastle every year because that was the level of nett migration that the UK was experiencing !!
You’ve got that much hatred for Britain that you can’t even see what’s going on in your own country that your oblivious to it.
Sinn Fein are now a disgrace to Ireland and what they fought for. They’re being run by far left extremists who only care about having their noses in the money trough of the EU. I’m of Irish heritage by the way and most of the Irish I speak to are sick of the EU also. Britain will thrive outside of the EU.
oh dear
Oh dear, is that it. You pretending to be Phil?
As an Irishman w zero time for Sinn Féin I am happy to inform you that your comment about Irish sentiment regarding the EU is utter balderdash. You might usefully familiarise yourself w the concepts of sampling error and confirmation bias.
You can get some informed Irish perspective on the EU & Brexit here (from an Irishman in the UK, but not one you’d likely run into) http://www.progressivepulse.org/brexit/a-fond-farewell-to-the-uk-from-an-eu27-citizen-part-i-origins.
Sorry. I must have been talking to hundreds of Irish people who in your eyes are obviously as thick as the other 17 million or so who voted to leave Britain. I think it’s time to take off the blinkers and actually look around and find out what’s really happening in Ireland.
I live in Ireland. My English wife has applied for citizenship. My son has moved his business from the UK (employed 15, now 25). Neighbour (English) works for a US multinational that has frozen all UK investment and is relicensing products for the single market in Ireland. The flood of investment, jobs and tax revenue into Ireland from the UK is substantial (hundreds of billions £). Thanks v much.
EU membership is approved of by 93% of the Irish people. You’ll be waiting a long time before the Irish join your “Titanic success”.
Do you mean the 17 million who voted to leave Europe?? 17 million out of a population of 60 million!! But we go out anyway. On the whim of around 28% of the population.
Interesting statistical comparison.
37% of overall electorate voted for Brexit (the change option)
37% of overall electorate voted for Scottish independence (the change option)
Britain WILL NOT thrive outside of the EU – England will! How so?..
Although it is fair to point out that the likes of colliery shutdowns under the Thatcher regime affected both Scotland, Wales, and England equally, Wales didn’t really have a “back-up”, so they will suffer from any economic failures in the future on a massive scale. Scotland will suffer less so, thanks to our whisky industry – but we cannot rely on that as our own back-up source of income. We (Scotland) will feel the economic backlash soon enough. Equally, the north of England will feel the backlash. However, our London-centric government will fight tooth and nail through various economic crises that may visit us in the future to ensure that the Home Counties are insulated, as much as is possible, from any economic downturn.
As an aside – I predict that, within the next 6-12 months, we will see Heathrow airport expansion being pushed through, come hell or high water.
Screw the North of England! They wanted to leave! Let THEM suffer the consequences of THEIR actions.