There was a meeting of the Sevco High Command yesterday and top of the agenda was how best to respond to the Big Tax Case ruling.
Fortunately, they had the wise counsel of an inter-galactic PR guru to assist them in their Quintessentially British deliberations.
I’m told that the agreed message that was to be passed onto the usual obedient outlets for unquestioning dissemination was the need for “healing”.
Apparently, the national game in Scotland needs to be “healed”.
The proffered remedy, dear reader, is for all of us to ignore that financial doping was carried out on an industrial scale for a decade.
Personally, I can’t see this crap being swallowed by anyone with a modicum of self-respect.
I’m hearing that the folks who run Aberdeen Football Club have been “taken aback by the strength of feeling” among their supporters on the issue of the tainted titles.
Fair play to the Dandies!
So far, the silence from Heart of Midlothian Football Club has been disappointing.
I thought more of Ms Budge.
Much more.
Apparently, this Samizdat site continues to create problems for those who are imbued with Unsurpassed Dignity.
I’m hearing that my piece that was posted earlier today apropos the Graham Dorrans deal produced a tense interaction within the Sevco High Command.
Indeed, the director who refused to pony up had a notion that a convicted criminal in the Blue Room might be briefing against him.
For the avoidance of doubt, I never discuss sources.
Meanwhile, the wage bill at the Engine Room Subsidiary has gone into orbit just as projected revenues have fallen off a cliff.
For example, I understand that Carlos Pena received a substantial signing-on fee when he recently joined the five-year-old club.
This will be paid via weekly instalments for the first year of his contract.
Therefore, for the initial twelve months, he is Sevco player he is receiving more than the ill-fated French speaking playmaker Monsieur Barton.
Like all of the new guys, Señor Carlos Alberto Peña Rodríguez is on a 52-week contract.
Of course, the Holding Company Vehicle is still in favour of the 48-week option if they can manage that one.
However, I’m told that Graham Dorrans’ representative wouldn’t entertain that idea.
The only problem with having financial projections based on a good cup run, whether it be in Europe or in a domestic competition, is that it might not happen.
That is exactly what the Sevco High Command are now finding out.
It is difficult to see how they can make financial Progres now or, indeed, heal…
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I’m not convinced the Celtic or the other clubs will actually step up and do the right thing. I hope I’m Wong on that but Resolution 12 taught me that they don’t want to rock the financial boat.
Ultimately, I think it’s going to take a judicial action by someone to bring it all out into the light (both the cheating EBTs and Res12).
It is perhaps ironic that the most controversial statement made this week surrounding the EBT ruling has gone under the Radar of the various stenography outlets across Scotland?
These keen eyed men who chase the truth and nothing but the truth appeared to have developed partial blindness AND lost the ability to read/comprehend a sentence containing a simple fact?
Sir David of Avoidance Scheme stated…
“The decision runs counter to the legal advice which was consistently provided to Rangers Football Club, that on the basis of the law and legal precedent at the time, the contributions made to the trust were not earnings and should not be taxed as such.
“It should be emphasised that there have been no allegations made by HMRC or any of the courts that the club was involved in tax evasion, which is a criminal offence.
“The decision will be greeted with dismay by the ordinary creditors of the club, many of which are small businesses, who will now receive a much lower distribution in the liquidation of the club, which occurred during the ownership of Craig Whyte, than may otherwise have been the case.”
Again for the avoidance of any doubt …
“The decision will be greeted with dismay by the ordinary creditors of the club, many of which are small businesses, who will now receive a much lower distribution in the liquidation of the club, which occurred during the ownership of Craig Whyte
LIQUIDATION OF THE CLUB
Oops he just sunk their battleshit
I dont beleive titles should be stipped or medals taken away
The players won them fair and square on the day
As the major shareholder Dermot Desmond will have suffered the biggest potential loss from missing out on CL participation.
The evidence of fraud and the subsequent cover up is already in the public domain. It’s not rocket science.
A complaint to Police Scotland will get the ball rolling. Fraud is a criminal offence whether it’s knowingly supplying false information on a mortgage application or falsifying a UEFA licence application.
There was millions of pounds at stake in this instance.
Those involved should be looking at jail time.
Was hoping to go to m ybed and saw this “cultural expression zones” now i cannae fecking sleep for laughing. the gift that keeps on fecking giving.
Honestly as a species they are fucked.
Wonder if the creditors are thinking , What does it matter to this club if titles are stripped from the club who stiffed us.
From Wikipedia re: clubs with stars on their shirts:-
In 2003, Rangers F.C. displayed five stars above the badge on their shirts to symbolise their 50 league titles. Rangers had won the most league titles in football with 54 and thus were commonly referred to as “The World’s Most Successful Football Club” until their liquidation in 2012. The new club have attempted to retain this history, and continue to wear the five stars despite having won no major honours. Celtic have only one star above their badge. Their star represents their triumph in the 1967 European Cup
How dare Scottish football supporters call into question the integrity,honesty and truthfulness of our iconic team. We are the most successful team in the world and because we are admired and held in the highest regard by everyone, we should not have to answer to anyone for anything that we do.
That’s what you call entitlement.
May their scabby cancerous club have a lingering painful end.
It’s not going to happen but the next time King holds a presser maybe some “journalist” could ask him if he knew of the hidden bungs the players were receiving whilst he was a director/investor.
Long may this circus continue. While the professional comedians, Trump & May hog most of the spotlight, the lesser comedians must have their space on the net.
There’s an awful lot of bluster going on from L5, SMSM, Club 1690 etc about Oldco’s EBT ruling considering tha everyone knows the ruling has no impact on Newco.
Oh, except that Newco bought the titles off Oldco – caveat emptor eh 🙂
‘As far as I can see, King’s statement yesterday may well have stuck the entire Rangers PLC board deep into the industrial manure and I am sure that his comments will not have gone unnoticed by BDO, their legal advisers and HMRC.’
The finale to a quite excellent series of observations on the obligations of a company director.from BRTH over on CQN.
Looks like Dave’s big gub has done for the lot of them.
The tax case was a trial to get at bigger fish. HMRC have won and they will be after bigger clubs in England. We wait with bated breath the reaction of the English FA to the cheating and can only hope they strip titles and can force the SFA/SPFL to act. If not then we must take this further.
I think we do need to heal however like any cancer you first must cut out the tumor. In this instance that means removing all the poisonous titles and cups illegally won before the cancer was diagnosed. Only then can any healing process begin.
As of this morning Rangers have no matches, friendlies or otherwise, arranged before they face Motherwell on the 6th August.
Someone at Ibrox, in addition to Pedro, is not doing their job.
I see one of their prominent sites suggesting Benfica as possible opponents, what with the Portoguese signings………yep, probably Benfica have no pre season fixtures arranged either?
Additionally there is the option of a Mexican team……..as long as it’s not the one with previous Celtic connections.
And finally of course there is the Linfield option, bands can be provided at no extra cost.
Some further perspective on the Progres result………they finished 20 points behind the league winners in their domestic competition, the league champions who themselves went on to be knocked out of the Europa Cup by Cliftonville.
ps, Any club fined or removed from a competition for either non payment of tax or fielding ineligable players should use the RFC EBT example as a precedent in any fututre dealing with the SPL and SFA.
Celtic should threaten to sue those involved in the ebt scam. They cost our club a minimum of £50 million.
A few hours after a lawyers letter lands on the doorstep of all those involved a meeting will be hastely called and title stripping would be top of the agenda.
I’m pretty sure Dermot knows a few good lawyers.
I assume that Kings’s recent visit to Hampden was to discuss “Senior Counsel’s” advice on the impending EBT ruling i.e. tell Timmy to trot on. Is the King contradictory statement and this healing crap the best they could come up with together. Oh boy – they are strcggling worse than pedro.
Having now read Mr. Kings statement in full, I would urge any Celtic representative to advise the press they will not any lectures from a convicted criminal.
The gloves are off…
The tax case involves the old club that is in liquidation. Nothing to do with the current club. The more King talks about it, the more relevant he tries to make the current club as somehow the same club.
He has to discuss it, to maintain the charade of same club. The Scottish papers have to give him airtime to help him maintain it, The SFA, well, they are just an affront to human intelligence.
Hearts will let it go just as they let the following debts go. Their titles are tainted too
2 Sports Marketing Ltd £5,153
A1 Minibus & Coaches £100
ADT Fire£1,033
Ayr United FC£1,750
Arnold Clark Finance£6,764
Allan Dick£50
Alasdair Fraser£528
Ardue House Hotel£180
AllStar Business Solutions£100
Alexander Szaorari£9,100
AB Ukio Bankas£15,488,290
Baltic Clipper£497
Bank of Scotland (Merchant Services)£100
Bank of Scotland (Equipment Finance)£970
Beswicks Sports Ltd£3,000
BOC Gases£490
British Red Cross£76
BT£3,024
British Gas£580
BIG Hearts Community Trust£589
Bruce Rae Property Management£34,048
Business Line UAB£204,143
Cable & Wireless£2,198
James Calcer£1,411
Cameron Presentations£5,406
Campbell Medical Supplies£100
Janette Campbell£100
Cardiac Services£152
Charlie Irons Coaches£100
Chamic£100
Childcare Vouchers£100
B Ciocco£11,469
Citroen£5,232
Clearwater Technology£5,156
Clouds£6,870
Coerver Coaching Scotland£949
Concept Group£841
Copymade Ltd£100
Corona Energy Retail£29,729
The Insolvency Service£0
DJ Alexander£6,323
David Cameron£110
Miss Amal Daher£120
Dataserve UK£160
DC Lighting Services£652
DJB Fire & Safety Training£48
Outfield Harrison£1,816
Daisy Communications£1,474
Ensco 165 £509,464
Eamonn Collins£5,000
Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce£674
Elite Medicale£222
Ermington Associates£100
Egkijius Valiauga£863
Fife Imaging Associates£903
Fountain Court Apartments£100
Football Safety Officers£230
GF Capital Solutions£337
John Gibson£2,520
Glenham Property£100
Graeme Rankin Sports Mgmt.£12,000
Green Star Media£77
Greentech Sportsturf£1,056
G4S£12,057
GroupCall Ltd.£210
HM Revenue – VAT£646,851
HM Revenue£1,881,068
Hamilton & Brydie£144
Hectic Life£52
HBJ Gateley Wareing£100
Heriot Watt£ £5,125,528
Highlander Kilt Hire£430
Hitachi Capital£7
Holiday Inn Aberdeen£58
Homespring Ltd£499
Sven Housten£40
HoMFC Shareholder Association£5,030
Impact Signs£6,499
InterLax£234
Interface En£100
James Armstrong & Co£1,520
Johnston Carmichael£100
Jane Lofthouse Johnson£410
James Sandison£680
J Thomson Colour Printers£100
Kauno Futbolo£13,431
Key Sports Management£23,049
Korelita£52,610
KPMG Hungary£1,190
Lady Haigs Poppy Fund£185
Lietuvos Rytas£37
Livingston FC£282
Liverpool FC£46,625
Llyods TSB£17,165
Lex Autolease£1,159
Lochgreen Hotel£510
Lyco Direct Ltd.£1,822
Milson Capital Corp£1,223,989
Ian Maclennan£335
McCraes Battalion Trust£100
Dr Carrie McCrea£760
Tony McGill£19,625
Dr Scott McKie£700
McRae of Gorgie£560
Meridan Hospital£790
Dr Andrew Murray£250
Musselburgh Athletic FC£5,790
Michael Page International£100
NHS Lothian£75
NHS Fife £739
North Lanarkshire Council£100
Northgate Vechile Hire£100
Nuffield Health£4,645
OG Lawfirm£5,000
Orange£5,896
PHS Group£1,110
Pulsant Scotland£240
Paton Plant Ltd£3,290
Pendrich Height Services£6,552
Performing Right Society£13,995
Pitch International£4,746
PPL Sport & Leisure£1,325
PPL£4,133
Premier Sports£4,836
ProKit£100
ProAmica£34,899
Professor Ernest Schiders£2,410
Rapide Communication£176
Respublikos Investicija£62
Runos Vertimal£43
RWN Orthopaedics£100
Ryden Lettings£100
Rigby Taylor Ltd.£1,564
Robert Graeme Wilson£150
Spie Matthew£2,436
Spire Healthcare£3,118
Scottish Water£100
Steve Hutchison£3,430
Scottish Police Authority£18,585
Savills£20,602
Scottish Ambulance Services£2,454
Scomac Catering Equip.£100
Scottish Power (Stadium)£9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office)£5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block)£1,254
Scottish Gas Business£347
Scrubbers Laundry£162
SDMS£411
Securevent Security£12,309
SFA£5,011
Shanks Waste Mgmt.£1,211
Scottish Hydro Electric£139
Jordan Shearer£90
Shred-it£457
Sky Business£100
Slaters£100
SNS Group£1,281
Spectator Seating£13,005
Speedy Power£100
Sportsmasters£1,648
Sporting ID£100
Sports Medicine Uraea AB£2,700
SRM Hearts£19,853
Scottish Power£100
St Andrews First Aid£364
Stenhousemuir FC£12,900
Stellar Football Ltd£5,750
Streamline Print Mgmt.£418
Superturas£26,636
Scottish Youth Football Assoc.£1,700
T.G Baker Sound£2,656
ThyssenKnapp Elevator£3,378
City of Edinburgh Council£90,715
City of Edinburgh Council (for flats)£2,631
The Edinburgh Clinic£557
Newspaper Licensing Agency£1,428
Talk Talk£5,548
The Rangers FC£1,410
Ticketmaster£33,112
TNT UK£8
TNT Post£56
Trichem£1,380
Technology Services Group£1,967
Turnstile Systems£810
UAB litcargus£1,166
UK Football Academy£228
Unum£2,300
UAB Ukio£8,151,497
Veecom Systems£3,525
Viola£290
Vodafone Connect£343
Wallace Brown/Langstane£956
Weatherseal£42
Western Saab£500
Dr David Whitaker£500
Scott Wilson£1,000
Yorkshire Clinic£2,562
I love how they owe ‘Rainjurz’ £1410
At least Hearts didn’t shaft any facepainters ?
Strip the Titles, strip the cups!
Agree about hearts Phil but has always been a belief of mine that hearts supporters are made from the same cloth as the Rangers but can’t afford the train fare to Govan, or they would all be there instead of Tynecastle.
Given the Modi Operandi from certain circles within the Rangers (IL) support I am not surprised that there has been very little response. Names and addresses on the internet, trolled, abused and in some cases bullets in the post or a viable homemade IED await those who would sully the great name of RFC 1872. They are the “peepul” after all, so only such dignified responses are to be expected.
You feed the Bears what they want to hear so that those with the moral conviction to stand against the systematic cheating are berated, abused and threatened.
Note to SMSM – PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE BEARS.
It is going to take more than a bloody sound bite to heal this wounding of Scottish football.
There is evidence that fraud has taken place and it should be used to hasten healing.
Auldheid, spot on.
A fraudulent licence application was made by Rangers, those that made it on behalf of the club are still in situ.
On top of a criminal fraud being perpetrated a cover up then ensued which involved officials from the football authorities who are supposed to be above reproach……fat chance in Scotland.
This continuity nonsense has to stop. If Rangers are claiming to be the same club HMRC should be all over them for the unpaid taxes.
Furthermore UEFA should be getting involved as Rangers has tax debts of tens of millions yet participated, not for long, in this year’s Europa Cup……
“……This is now another matter that we can finally put behind us.”
Dave King declares the issue is closed. Celtic are swatted aside as agitating bad loser upstarts.
If Dave King’s opinion wasn’t irrelevant I’d point out his agitating language in contrast to Celtic’s calm reasoned statement.
No statement from Budge, Petrie or Milne. When you consider some of the highly inflammatory statements made by King, against Hibs in particular, I find it quite odd there isn’t yet a united front calling for a review of the shameful LNS whitewash. The season books are mostly all sold of course, unlike in 2012, but we fans will not be ignored.
I have read on an Aberdeen Supporters site that the board were approached and are refusing to release a statement. Also, it was said that the banners at Arbroath by the Dons support were taken down on the orders of Stewart Milne.
The new angle from the dodgy Dave is
LETS BLAME THE MURRAY GROUP
NOT THE OLD CO
The longer this goes on they will blame the queen
Well, it happened on her watch …
Our heel on their neck will be the only ‘healing’ going on till this disgrace gets fixed.
To cure the patient you must eradicate the problem.
In this case, the patient, and its attendees, are the problem.
But we’ll fix them for good.
I don’t think The Rangers really are the problem, like Rangers before them, their behaviour hurts themselves more than anyone else. The real problem in this never-ending saga are the Scottish football authorities who continue to allow all of this to take place without taking any sort of action. The SFA have presided over 40 odd years of decline in the Scottish game, have shown no real appetite to reverse the trend and their only strategy is to lie and excuse the blatant cheating in Govan in order to keep the Ibrox club’s supporters from walking away from the game altogether.
The titles being stripped are held on the record of the dead club Rangers 1872.
What kind of country do we live in when no one does the right legal thing unless there’s enough public unrest to force it? Even though there’s governing bodies with men paid to correct corruption. But these men support the corruption even after being proven in the Supreme Court.
Justice goes a long way to support healing. Strip the titles to speed healing.
Agreed Phil…
The silence from Hearts truly is deafening!
You’d think there was some sort of ‘bond’ there?
I’m sure Kilmarnock FC will be backing the cause by Monday!
Well done Aberdeen fans.
Lets hope the ‘EBT (spring) upwelling’ sustains a few weeks until start of season so that fan power can actually be displayed. The powers that be will be hoping not…
Hopefully Celtic FC stewards will not be confiscating whatever the Green Brigade have in store for that first Home CL tie against Sevco’s cousins over the water.
Still delighted at the Court outcome…
but seething at the lack of action in response.
Aye, James Bond.
The traitor! 😀
Yes, even Hearts fans are disappointed and we are sending letters and emails trying to solicit a response. However your assumption that there is some bond( huns without bus fares) is way off the mark. The few Hearts fans who hold an affection for either Glasgow team is shrinking and will soon die out.
I read this site and have signed the petition to strip the titles, but that doesn’t mean I like Celtic any more than any other team.In fact there is nothing further from the truth.
I think that word ‘Progres’ will find its way into the Oxford English Dictionary if we use it enough! Sevco should get there first though!
The spending pattern at iBrokes HQ backs up the theory that Sevco are going for a ‘break them or bust’ approach to stopping Celtics advance on TIAR. For a club that likes to take the ‘talk aboot yersells’ approach it seems to be far more concerned with stopping the achievements of another club rather than stabilising the rat-infested. leaking ship and concentrating on their own upward path.
Ah well!
Bust it is!
Meltdown by February if Wullie Hils are taking bets.
Earlier if there is some actual action from the SPFL regarding titles.
I need a bigger fridge-freezer!
Happy weekend Phil et al.
Personally I can’t see sufficient momentum or quantum to counter their intended narrative
Probably it will take the ramifications of the legal decision on the rest of UK football to result in penalties to clubs outside scotland by the their football associations before SFA are in effect forced to act. It may be a while.
Troll alert!
Latest Sevco bs.
I think you may be right on that one. An EPL precedent will maybe shame the SFA into action.
The SFA will do nothing until they absolutely have to and then again…….
Hopefully, some of the foreign clubs that suffered by Rangers EBT cheating will put pressure on their home associations and / or UEFA.
It is probably fair to say that no team wants these tainted titles and cups but only for the records to be erased with a clear explanation as to why.
So let’s hear no more crap about
* the most successful club in the world
* going for 55
* Celtic’s tainted titles during Sevco’s journey years
* no sporting advantage
Etc.
I hope that HMRC goes hard after those EBT recipients for Payment and I would be interested if someone can say how they will pursue those foreign players and staff who no longer reside in the U.K.?
I forgot to mention the Rangers shirt and other business sponsors whose brand and reputation imo was tarnished by association with the EBT cheating club.
US Mail sought to get sponsorship money back from Lance Armstrong when he was found to have cheated to 7 Tour de France titles and these titles were stripped from him.
Sporting integrity, fair play, a level playing field and justice – not part of the Rangers and SFA mindset.
Scottish football will suffer further unless the establishment entitlement culture is killed off forever. Give us our game back.
You know the side letters state that the club will pay if HMRC come calling. It did not say the company but the club. They cannot have it both ways. If they keep claiming they are the same club ie the continuation myth then they are responsible to pay tax owed for these individuals.
I don’t think you’ll hear much from Mrs Budge.
Hearts were shafting the taxman during their 2006 and 2012 cup wins.
Debt to Hector at their administration was over £ 2.5 million.
Wow! Did Hearts have illegible players due to numerous side contracts in contravention of the rules? No? Thought so.
Hearts had 10 kiddy -on loan players from Vlad’s other club Kaunus in the 2006 final. Most of them had never been to lithuania in their lives.
In 2012 Vlad had a new dodge, ” special deals ” for some players like Skacel. Part wages paid through Club and the remainder through Vlad’s holding company into Skacel’s Czech bank account. That money was not on his SFA registered contract. All the details came out in Court when the player’s agent sued him for non payment of his agent’s fee.
Banged to rights !
Right on Phil….you make my day.
What does it matter to this new ‘rangers’ if..and when the stripping takes place, it won’t affect their titles or cups!