Angry statements and unintended outcomes

I suspect that the law of unintended consequences might once more be in play at Sevco.

What started as a deflection tactic after a bad result could well have some unfortunate implications.

In the aftermath of the defeat to Neil Lennon’s men at Ibrox to order of the day was simple:

“Get the Irishman”.

Consequently, it was statement o clock for Sevco’s disgruntled clientele.

The objective of the high-Level spin was to make Lennon’s arm gesture the story of the match, rather than the fact Pedro’s guys had been pumped.

It took the Serious Professional yesterday to point out to a Club 1872 grandee that their ill-judged statement was probably actionable.

This came as something of a shock to the Club 1872 chap had been buoyed up by the favourable response to the edict on the message boards.

If the Serious Professional is correct in his lay assessment then those Quintessentially British chaps in the supporter organisation should pray that that Neil Francis Lennon is not of a litigious mind.

Indeed, I would not be surprised if the lawyers of Hibernian FC are at this moment forensically parsing this masterpiece of an own goal.

I really wouldn’t…

39 thoughts on “Angry statements and unintended outcomes”

  1. I can hear Michael Mol(d)s now:

    “The Champions League doesn’t count without Rangers”

    There’s no Rangers anymore Michael. Where have you been?

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  2. See the BBC bitching that Celtic were ‘lucky’ tonight, making fuss of the fact that we’d only 3 shots on target yet still managed to win 5-0.

    In a sane,unbiased & non sectarian society, the media would be gazing in dumbstruck awe at such a statistic, and that before we even get to the disciplined and utterly ruthless footballing performance displayed by every Celtic player involved, yet the media choose to run with the grudging blatant lie that we were ‘lucky’ ….

    The bitterness drips out of them like piss out a sponge.

    Because that’s all the British media is, a bought & paid for succubus which tells only of the greatness of its masters, conditioned to demean and diminish the achievements of their deadly foe, be it the Glasgow Celtic, the worldwide international rebel groups breaking their stranglehold across the globe, or any other likewise threat to their hegemony.

    Anyone who says this is ‘only a gemme of fitba’ should pay strict and immediate heed to how the media portrays these issues so that they might fully understand that this is a war that we’ve long been engaged in, a propaganda war for the hearts and minds of those who don’t yet fully understand what is happening in the heat of the madness and the lies of the battle.

    Now that we know that the media is nothing but a tool of manipulation in the hands of the wrong guys, as best evidenced in the ‘War On Neil Lennon’ this week, maybe we’ll all wake up to the scope of the agenda being enacted upon us and respond in the appropriate manner, both in action and in full comprehension of what our power means and how we can wield it; should we collectively decide to withdraw our financial support from the game until the Aegean Stables are fully emptied and hosed, for example.

    But, as someone just said the other day, twas ever thus, this is not ‘new news’, this is the control scam that been long going on and which our faithers and grandfaithers told us of.

    The swindlers spin their con jobs and we’re just meant to go right along swallow it all whole, and most times do, willing slaves to our own cruel masters, we defending their right to exploit us, and hoping one day to be just like them, that we make enough cash to be cracking the whip, in what may be the single greatest example of Stockholm Syndrome we are ever likely to see in this or any other lifetime.

    The media lie to us about everything daily because if they dared hint at the truth of the length, breadth & scope of it there would be a bloody & tumultuous revolt overnight, instantaneously.

    Aye, twas ever thus, twas ever thus, and to whoever wrote that, you made me think about this one well.

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    • Brilliant… great analysis!
      We’re playing in a rigged game.
      To accept the rules of that game is to accept an inferior status.
      We need to tear the structure down and start again. That means huge upheaval. It means we might have to join a breakaway league or boycott Scottish games. It means loss of revenue for a while. It will take great heart to force change. Do we have the appetite?
      I hope so.

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  3. I’m sick of losing BTSport on Celtic champions league nights on the app.

    5 minutes tonight between 12-17 minutes of game.

    Only on CFC CL nights. No other BTSport app games.

    Anybody else? Are Huns working in bt online services in Scotland? Interfering with broadband?

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  4. How is the boycott going…???

    No boycott then there is no use commenting on how things are things will only change when the customer demands a proper fair service…. all else is hot air.

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  5. Every time they see Neil Lennon it reminds them of liqidation and the death of their club .

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  6. The Precepts of God, Old Testament style, as laid down to Moses:

    EXODUS 23:2
    2. Thou shalt not follow the multitude to do evil: neither shalt thou yield in judgment, to the opinion of the most part, to stray from the truth.

    and

    EXODUS 23:8
    8. Neither shalt thou take bribes, which even blind the wise, and pervert the words of the just.

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  7. Why can’t I post comments anymore?

    In case this gets through, I see the SPFL have instigated proceedings against Albion Rovers for fielding an ineligible player. Perhaps they should have called themselves Albion Rangers and fielded an entire team of ineligible players because one or other measure seems to make such fraudulent behaviour exempt from punishment

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  8. Club 1872 is an Owner/ Operator of Rangers. (Second biggest shareholder).

    It’s statement on Lennon beggars belief.

    Ashley was taken to task by the SFA as a shareholder of RIFC PLC. Ashley took it to JR that the SFA had no authority over him. The Court of Session disagreed and the SFA fined him.

    The SFA must now fine Club 1872 for this more heinous crime.

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  9. “Rangers and Club 1872 are always keen to remind our supporters of their duty to act as ambassadors for our club …. ”

    It’s those 45000 ambassdors singing their songs of hatred that cause this issue. The worst part of it is there is never any action taken by the police or punitive fines made by the SPFL / SFA.

    Therefore like a badly behaved child who doesn’t get scolded they continue with their behaviour as no one tells them it’s unacceptable.

    The only way this will change is when Police Scotland start targeting individuals and making arrests on the spot or using video evidence and season ticket data to make arrests after the match.

    I empathise with Neil Lennon, but struggle to understand why he puts himself and his family through this and doesn’t just walk away. Life’s too short to be the target for this abuse.

    DB

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    • Every other club could stop accepting Sevco supporters at their games…
      … and refuse to go to games at iBrokes.

      Would certainly highlight the issue… but we all know both actions will not happen for the majority of other clubs who won’t fill their grounds on home games and are too steeped in the mock allure of the ‘blue pound’. (Celtic and Hibs maybe being the exceptions this season).

      It should really be referred to the ‘Bigot Pound’ not ‘Blue Pound’.

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  10. You may write me down in history
    With your bitter, twisted lies,
    You may trod me in the very dirt
    But still, like dust, I’ll rise.

    Does my sassiness upset you?
    Why are you beset with gloom?
    ‘Cause I walk like I’ve got oil wells
    Pumping in my living room.

    Just like moons and like suns,
    With the certainty of tides,
    Just like hopes springing high,
    Still I’ll rise.

    Did you want to see me broken?
    Bowed head and lowered eyes?
    Shoulders falling down like teardrops,
    Weakened by my soulful cries?

    Does my haughtiness offend you?

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  11. Hope Lennon sues them and shuts them up once and for all utter disgrace bringing shame to rangers apology from rangers should have been done by now will they do it

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  12. SFA “punishes” referees for honest performances at the weekend.

    Beaton gets sent to Championship for correctly red carding a srvcorangers player. And Dallas is made a fourth official for not giving Partick Thistle a penalty against Celtic.

    Anti Rangers and pro Celtic refereeing in the SFA’s mind. Even though both Refs support Sevco Rangers.

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    • You should know better than to read/believe the record. This is total BS; the Rota was out with these games weeks ago…

      There are 30+ Grade 1 refs in Scotland and only 6 top flight games needing 12 officals (6 refs, 6 4th officials) so rotation is just a part of it.

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  13. Real issue is RFC club sponsor (check thier sponsor video wall) makes statement that brings Scottish football into disrepute – so SFA/SPFL need to act and act fast – or lennie and hibs will.

    Club1872 need to be censured – this not how sponsors supposed to act.

    this is the way to get them

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  14. The SFA hammered V. Romanov even though he had no direct connection to Hearts. In fact they even made up new rules and applied them retrospectively.
    They must do something as the link to the club is clear.

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    • And used the change in rules that created the owner/operator concept in 2005 to deal with Romanov to justify RFC having an owner operator construct from 1872.

      That construct was codified into the 5 Way Agreement giving it a meaning that introduces moral hazard and was ever the original intent.

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      • How then, do you argue against the owner/operator defence that is used to explain a separation between club and company in 2012, and hence the continuation of the club?

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          • But that doesn’t answer it. If there was an owner/operator of the club in 2012, how can we argue against the owner/operator going bust and the club continuing? The rules state there must be two distinct entities, do they not?

      • The five way Agreement is unlawful and cannot be quoted by anyone.
        The signatories did not have the powers to sign and agree what they did in defiance of Scots law.

        If you Judicial Review the SFL allowing Sevco into SFL div3 against their own rules of three years playing and good accounts, no judge would allow it. You cannot buy and sell Sporting history and titles.

        The LNS Commission report is similarly a miscarriage of justice. Nimmo-Smith has created a miscarriage of justice. It should be revisited on those grounds. Regardless of SPFL rules. Any new charges outwith LNS does not require to revisit LNS. Such as EBT being unlawful.

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  15. Brainless twits with fibs off the liedar.

    If the SFA do not wish to partake in an independent investigation into Scottish Football Governance then there should be an spfl clubs vote of no confidence in the SFA.

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  16. Was the statement not issued in the name of a subsidiary company of 1872, presumably with zero assets, set up like that to deal with potential litigation situations like this?

    It may be necessary to pursue the Directors/Individuals personally. Now that would be fun.

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  17. I believe the fans if organised on Saturday had an opportunity to let the board know their feelings and missed an open goal. Instead they played the man and again it is backfiring, they are now reliant on others to provide them information as they have pushed themselves back into a corner and will be dictated to from people whos sole interest is to fleece the place as soon they will not be around when the shit hits the fan, it is coming.
    The hype leading up to this encounter was a perfect opportuntiy to deflect any unsavoury result and let the real villians of the piece escape scot free.
    Hibs are a good side and have experience al over the park they will find their feet in this division and most of them have already played at this level.
    Lennon has a mixture of players who have played in various top competitons and have tasted success, this bodes well for youngsters coming through and the present players who have yet to experience major honours are been nurtured from the best, they will learn to fear no-one and this comes from leadership.
    Hibs took apart teams in the championship by playing hard at times and gutsy football and this allows them to adapt at the next level up easily, they are looking for Europe they have players who have been on that stage in their careers and they will want this again with their current employers, their manager is demanding and does not suffer fools gladly, you play to a level and reap the rewards he is a proven winner and guys like Murray will learn this and his rawness will improve, he has already manged double figures, Lennon knows a diamond in the rough when he sees one.
    Watch for more players from SPFL teams who will not be hitting the medias attention but will not have escaped lennons attention. there is one at Dundee right now and i would not be suprised if he i on the radar he fits the bill with his powerful running and no-nosense tackling.
    Lennon has set the bar for the other teams in the SPFL as they will now have to contend with Hibs as challengers, the result over by was not about what we are reading today and the pish, this guy has walked in and took from them the second or third place which incedently will not be theirs. He delivered his message and it was not well recieved, however, by playing the man the opportuntinity was lost the ducks were in a row but the pistol was not pointed or loaded in their direction. No Europe and already losing ground will put presssure on and they do not do pressure over by, this might have been the first of many cold calling cards left that nothing to fear is the mantra as YANRA and what was in the beginning 1873 has ended
    2012 and the shell at the stadium may be too big too fill.We have a three horse race below Celtic and my money is on Hibs and Aberdeen to fight for the automatic European places.

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  18. Club Tropicana should definitely be held to account and I hope Hibs/Lennie screw them. The SFA have got to action this also as they slag off a manager and the match officials. Their statements are not out there in isolation, they have a board rep on there and they are the 2nd biggest shareholder so what they say represents sevco or sevco should make sure their output passes some internal review.

    Won’t be holding my breath on the sfa review though.

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