It would appear that racists are not too fond of anti-racist statements.
Who knew?
Last night in France Sevco took a knee, and the klan didn’t take it well.
The comments to this Tweet from the official Sevco account are, well, illuminating.
The shameful reaction if the Ibrox klanbase has travelled across the water and the Dublin media picked it up.
I’m sure that regular readers will not be surprised in the least at these responses to the images of every Sevco player explicitly stating that Black Lives Matter.
In 2009 Rangers player Maurice Edu was racially abused by two of his own supporters, and I reported on it at the time.
I looked back on the 10th anniversary of that shameful event here and noted that precious little progress had been made with the Ibrox klanbase.
The basic message was if you authorise one type of racism do not be surprised if you attract other variants fo the same hatred.
This site started in 2008, and the first task was to report on the emergence of the Famine Song on the Ibrox song sheet.
In 2006 UEFA had ruled that the old favourite the Billy Boys was racist and discriminatory.
For the avoidance of doubt dear reader, it most certainly is.
Lovingly remembering in song, a street gang led by a self-identifying fascist and member of the KKK is very racist indeed.
For a while, the Ibrox klanbase were perfect, and they need a new musical expression of their core hatred-Irish Catholics.
The descendants of those who fled Ireland at the time of An Gorta Mór were invited to consider repatriation.
Of course, racists always think that they’re making sense.
The multi-generational Irish community were told in the song that Ireland was their real home.
However, any proud expression of Irishness was simultaneously derided as inauthentic.
Apparently “Plastic” being the preferred adjective in the discriminatory lexicon.
Therefore, Ireland is your home, but if you express any proud connection to Ireland, it is derided and dismissed.
That seems to be the deal in Fair Caledonia for the multi-generational Irish community.
In psychotherapy, this is considered a “paradoxical communication”.
The upshot is that if you internalise that message, then you will be in an unbelievably bad place.
When Billy Fullerton wrote to the KKK in America to get authorisation to establish a chapter of the Klan in Glasgow it was the Irish in the city who were his intended victims.
A difference in skin pigmentation is not necessary to be othered by a racist.
Meanwhile in the land of the Three Fifths Compromise justice comes dripping slowly.
The killing of George Floyd ignited a fire that was already smouldering.
Colin Kaepernick’s lonely protest had gathered ground since he made his silent statement in the 2016 NFL season.
The conditions for a general uprising against racism might now be in place.
Moreover, only racists and white supremacists will be threatened by that prospect.
All right-thinking people on Planet Football will support this public expression of anti-racism.
However, we should not be surprised that the Ibrox klan base, who had their club sanctioned several times last season for racist chanting, is out of step with the rest of us.
They should be sick with shame.
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Sevco should kneel before every game.
If it delivers 2-0 for them, it’s got to be their Malcolm X Factor.
You’ve become the thought police once more. Gone are our rights to kneel or not to kneel.
Are you a complete hypocrite? Where and when have you taken the knee publicly for BLM? That has been witnessed?
BLM is clearly a racist, rioting, violent, looting, anti white movement. Or the tv coverage and cell phone videos I’ve been sent are full of first class black actors and special effects. “Get whitey” “beat whitey up” “kill whitey”. If I used “Darkie” would it be racist?
Black Americans speak out against BLM and the knee online and get hundreds of thousands of likes. They point out the facts regarding the life of the Black guy who died. They say they won’t take the knee for anyone, let alone that ex con, armed robber, drug dealing, porno low life. I completely agree with them and I’m not racist either.
The police officers should not have killed him. But he was what he was and his criminal life choices deserve fierce criticism not swept under the carpet.
Your insistence that all right thinking people should take the knee; the Pope? The Queen? The USA President? the Ayatollas? the Hindus? the Cardinals? the Prime Minister? the President of Russia? the President of China? the Archbishop of Canterbury, prince charles? Etc….. is laughably ridiculous.
Oh! And there’s no such thing as multi generational Irish in Scotland. That’s just racist!!! They’re Scottish if born here NOT Irish. I don’t know a single Scot born here who identifies as Irish not Scottish. Not one. You’re an Outlier.
Loved the ‘The police officers should not have killed him’. Are you sure? And the ‘But’ that follows; ‘he was what he was’. Almost sounds like a justification for his murder.
Rodrigo Duterte sounds right up your street.
Surprisingly articulate.
Such hate would find a natural home in the most bigoted Hun sites.
Absolute mince. You don’t know anyone that was born in Scotland but consider themselves Irish? I’m now the second generation of my family born in Scotland but would still consider myself as Irish (it’s in my blood). If I go on holiday I look for an Irish/Celtic pub, certainly not a Scottish pub. Skin colour, Creed, religion, where you were born etc should not determine how a person is treated.
Your pub preference overseas does not establish your Nationality.
I’m not a “why don’t you go home” purveyor at all but if you love Ireland before Scotland why don’t you seek happiness there instead of here?
Why did your Irish grandparents come to Scotland too if Ireland is better and where the heart is?
It’s very valid questioning. Not offensive at all. Surely the freedom to pursue happiness is important?
You are entitled to Irish citizenship a passport and residency and therefore EU citizenship.
I think the truth is that you, your parents and grandparents all know Scotland is a far better place to live than Ireland.
Family, paddy &Mick. Family in Scotland. I don’t dislike Scotland, I dislike the many racist, bigoted people who stay here and have treated me different due to my religion and football preference.
Nice of you to touch on the beautiful poem by WBY, but I feel that we may have peace in the cabin on The Lake of Innesfree but justice as always is a long way off.
Keep up the good work.
HH
There’s no doubt that Red-mist-on Dive is a hot-bed for White-Supremist-Racists.The problem is that their hate figures, the Tims, are seen as part of the problem as well! For example, you cannot sing Irish ballads at Celtic Park nowadays because it is non-pc. Mention the term “The Crown” or “The Boys of the Old Brigade” in your own dulcet cantations and you won’t be welcome at Parkhead. You will be required to watch your football elsewhere.This is a political decision which the Club backs.
But such a policy or stance only compounds and deepens the problem and it also adds pressure to the situation. This is to the detriment of society in general. The longer it goes on, the more it gnaws away at the fabric and the character of the nation. People lose faith in their leaders because they cannot seem to get to grips with the problem. In effect they are right because quite simply, the Government cannot solve the problem. They cannot recognise the problem for what it is and therefore they have no chance of solving it.
This is exactly what happened with the OBA at Football Act. That was their attempt to solve it. Alex Salmond still believes in the Act, despite the fact that it was a dismal failure. The problem remains extant. This Government move on, new poli’s are elected etc. – the problem repeats itself. It is a cancer at the centre of the life of Scottish Nation. it is the people of Scotland who suffer because of the inability of their leaders to perform the Civic duties required of them and those who see no shame in the muck, just go on rolling in it, thumbing their noses at the rest of us. Take BBC Scotland for example, that fine Scottish moral institution of Equality and Fairness. I’m alright Jack, I’ve got mine!
So, until we elect some real politicians who are in the job for the right reasons, it is “As You Were.”
It’s governments that ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEMS.
Leave Van alone…his set with The Chieftains at Govan, where the Chieftains broke into The Sash at one point, indicates that what you came from and what you do and think are not that closely related Wolfe Tone is a good example too. I will be taking the knee alongside all anti-racist to express my solidarity for BLM. It is the least we can do in this Decimo season! Thanks Phil. Brill.
Some of the sports direct fc fans were disgusted by the hard of thinking fans(racist bigots) but then again it’s the minority versus the majority
Whilst I have no doubt there are numerous racists in their support, as I am sure there are in most supporters, however I think you have jumped the gun with this comment. I too am against BLM as in my opinion All lives matter. BLM has become a political movement that has little or nothing to do with the original concept. I was an ambulance driver who treated all skin colours the same, as they were patients and not things of a different shade.
I’ve never really liked Van Morrison. In the words of Alan Partridge, “I’m happy with the Greatest Hits”.
Just like Springsteen, it’s not enough to like him, you’ve got to venerate him and I never bought into that.
Apparently in the late ’80s some of Van’s backing band weren’t too happy with the curmudgeonly old buggger’s strops and rude behaviour. So, between the Sound Check and the gig, they’d remove Van’s harmonica from its stand and take turns rubbing it between their sweaty butt-cheeks.
Hopefully it gave a certain piquant flavour to his song, “Full Force Gale”.
Hail and Hail again !
Being called Racist in the present day has 100% lost the stigma once attached to it. I will never take the knee for BLM/ANTIFA.
They are a terrorist organisation funded by White elitists (Global terrorists) who’s main goal is ethnic separation and socialist/liberalist agenda to take the focus away from there real goal.
By all means anyone who wants to take a knee are free to do, but classing anyone who disagree’s with them as Racist, really.
Every single person I know, work colleagues, family, friends etc who do not have a racist bone in there body are seeing right through this for what it really is.
Call us racist, the stigma is no longer there. Only in your own eyes (Which are the MINORITY)
Developing story I think
Could we change the way we look at this? Every Sevco player participated in this, showing leadership and courage to their fanbase which has been notoriously slow to move on from the racist behaviour that was prevalent in most football grounds throughout the 1970s and 1980s. Unlike e.g. Formula 1 drivers, many of whom could not be persuaded to take a knee, Sevco has made its position clear.
It should be the players that take the action to change the bigots. All of the Catholic players in the Rangers team should speak out and walk off when the songs start. It is the only way the club will get the message. For years now, catholic players were told not cross themselves when scoring or entering or leaving the pitch!
How do they get away with it????.
I see one of the sevco fan’s was”discusted”by their Captain doing a black power salute, I was wondering what got him the most the fact that the man is black or the fact he dares to be proud of that fact, well done Tav
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
A bit like Trump’s pronouncements. Typical, vile but it still takes the breath away.
According to Goram in an article today, Van “No Longer the Man” Morrison was a ” mad rangers ” fan. There goes another hero.
I wonder if he is a Sevco fan because he is certainly ignorant enough.
I heard he was more than just a rangers fan, if you get my meaning. I too was severely disappointed when I found out. Maybe Phil could confirm?
Hard to reconcile the guy that wrote “Haunts of Ancient Peace” with this and I am beginning to wonder if Goram was, well you know…
Not really sure what you mean but is the colour orange involved?
Interestingly enough, I once asked some folk musicians, who had asked for requests, to play Morrison’s ” The Streets of Arklow”, one of my favourites. One of them said he knew it and then whispered something in the singers ear who then turned round and said they couldn’t as it was sectarian.
It is about marching through the streets but I never connected the dots and it’s still a great song.
Just re-read the lyrics and there is no way it is sectarian. Perhaps they just didn’t know it…
Yes he is/was a rangers man,maybe sevco’s not orange n bitter enough for him any longer…who knows or cares.
Although writing a song/album called ‘St.Dominics Preview’ I can totally get the confusion thing.
‘Redwood Tree’ is a wee beauty of a tune,I’ll love it tilll I’m no longer here to spread the ‘grá’🍀
He could support the devils 11,his ability and sheer output over decades can only be commended,anyone/everyone that can’t cope with his chosen fitba team IS part of the problem.
Van’s version of Raglan Road (though written by poet Patrick Kavanagh) is unsurpassed. No-one who can be touched by that poem enough to produce the song in the way he did, can possibly have a dark heart. Van is still the Man.
Indeed, and I suppose I kind of feel that way about his version of “Purple Heather”, as he calls it, from”Hard Nose the Highway”. Such is the human condition.
Doesn’t devalue his music but I chose the word “ignorant” simply because I saw him humiliate someone completely unnecessarily. Some guy at a concert walked from the back of the hall to the stage, during a brief hiatus, as Morrison was deciding to play sax or guitar, head bowed he put up his hand towards Van who then completely ignored him and started the song.
Why Morrison did it, don’t know but the guy was trying to express how much VM meant to him and he then had to make that walk,passed us all, back to his seat. My opinion on the music didn’t change that day but my view of the man did.
He sure is a fan of old rangers,it may well be that sevco aren’t quite orange enough any longer…
His career spans decades,output second to none and he probably still tours…
I can see why you were confused about his team,‘St,Dominics Preview’ and other religious references in songs are also mentioned although,that particular song isn’t a song that his fitba team would commend with the prefix of St.
Regardless,he could be an avid follower of the devils 11 and I’d still listen to him.
Van The Man must have set all kinds of World records within the music industry,personally,I hope he sets many more,aye even at 75yoa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Morrison?wprov=sfti1
Cheers Phil👍🏽
I don’t know who coined the phrase, but it’s from many years ago.
There are two types of people, those who like Van Morrison, and those who know him.
I’m aware of quite a few examples of extreme rudeness which he seems to indulge in for no apparent reason other than that he can. He’s an interviewers nightmare. Most ‘stars’ who don’t like the fame game just choose not to participate. He seems to take perverse enjoyment out of belittling everyone he can from support acts to paying audiences. I don’t judge my music choices based on their football preferences or indeed their behavior in general, (there will be quite a few in my collection who are/were morally wanting), but along with Morrissey he’s the only other that I’m aware is a complete arsehole every time I hear him. But as with Morrissey, some brilliant songs.
I have a cousin in Glasgow who is a Rangers fan. When I was back for my dad’s funeral in January he explained how the racist abuse of their players is a constant and not by a minority. Most on here I’m sure know this, as I said to him, sorry cuz but I’m not a bit surprised. I’m only surprised your still going to the games; he’s a guy I’ve always thought highly of. His response was he’d stopped after an incident were he’d called it out and found himself the lone voice and worried he was going to have to fight his way out. Football without fans might not be a bad thing at certain stadiums
Sadly Phil there are a fair number of our own support that share these abhorrant beliefs,never thought it of my fellow fan it has truly shocked me
I’m pishin masel laughin and the racist, degenerate SEVCO fans. All lives do matter but your club is long dead 😂😂😂😂😂
I didn’t think you’d be silent over this one.I was about to add,they know no shame however,there are more ‘fans’ giving ‘the peepul’ what for.I thought it quite refreshing to see so many saying that ‘IF you are not a believer in anyone/everyone movement,then this club’s not for you,hand your season books back and move on’
Now I know it’s no revolution but they seem to genuinely want the club to move out of the 17th century and into,maybe the 20th,you cannot expect a full jump to the present day;that may well be a step too far,look what happened to Tonald Drump he morphed into an orangutan 🦧 and is clearly still delusional…
Thanks Phil,keep at the bastages👍🏽🇮🇪
As a club who are fond of making statements, do you think they will publicly support BLM and call out the fans who have criticised the players?
Despite the shame and embarrassment brought to Scottish football, if not the nation, AGAIN,
we have to embrace Rangers, its 54 titles, its pathetic PR “Everyone Anyone”, its general intolerance and continuing bad behaviour and disruptive influence in the game.
Yes, we have to not only embrace it, but shut up as well… whilst handing over money to our own clubs.
Our own clubs have indulged the new Ibrox club since 2012.
Scottish football is governed – in effect – by cowardly clubs.
The Ibrox club and its supporters are just doing what they have always done: they simply don’t know any better.
Our own clubs have enabled TRFC to continue to spread its malevolence across the game.
Shame on the 41 clubs! 🙁
I see the new shirts were also emblazoned with the 32red sponsors logo despite French advertising bans on such companies. Be interesting to see how that indiscretion is dealt with. Also, as Kent was red carded he should be suspended for the trip to Aberdeen, as was the case for Simunovic last year….🤔
To be sick with shame you’d first have to understand what’s wrong with your stance. Your average hun is just unfathomably stupid. You couldn’t mark a typical hun’s neck with a bunsen burner.
You couldn’t mark their neck with a Thermal Lance bud.
Cyan – you have previously posted against BLM.
Happy to slag off Rangers supporters when they post against BLM🤔
May I refer you to the Oxford English Dictionary – hint try under Letter H😉
Police brutality is a major problem in the USA. As a gun owner I am all too aware of the blatant disregard police have for individual rights. But how does supporting an organization of self pro claimed marxists who want to destroy our capitalist system fight racism? BLM has a bigger agenda. Look at where moneys donated to them go. ActBlue gets the donations. Look where they spend them. Sorry guys Im not supporting that organization. And why do they support gun bans? Self defense is not allowed?
In a civilised country an individual does not require a gun.
Well said, Martin.
‘I possess a gun’ you state – no idea why you would either wish to possess one or you would even mention it – making up for some personality problem.
Ps – I worked at Stirling Royal Infirmary in March 1996 so I am aware what guns ca do😥
I’m absolutely sure that the species neanderthal was known to have a rather pronounced brow. Will take a lot of banging heads like that off of brick walls before the message gets through….if it ever does.
Is anybody really surprised, at the intolerance and bigoted racist hatred of these people?
Some people just don’t or won’t understand. All racists seem to need to feel superior but under siege at the same time. It’s an odd position.
Phil, Are you aware of the obstacles former ambassador Craig Murray is facing in his attempt to join the NUJ? He is asking NUJ members to query why his efforts to join are being subject to delay and obfuscation. Apparently someone objected to his application. He is wondering how this can be since it was only known to him and NUJ that he had applied.
He has the e-mails to and from the NUJ on his blog.
Please help him if you can. He is in similar position to yourself in that he is reporting what the main stream media studiously avoid.